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Old 11-27-2013, 06:10 AM   #1966
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Hi Jens,

Just out of curiosity, what do you still like about your KK? I have been considering upgrading from my KK but I keep wavering. I am not unhappy with it. I have an m-edge cover with the light which is still more convenient than a book. However the software on the PW2 intrigues me and, well, new devices are always fun!

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You may want to check out my Kindle Keyboard vs. PW and Paperwhite 2 reviews:

Kindle Keyboard: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/top...tml#msg1921549
Paperwhite 2: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,165383.0.html

To cut a longer story short, Kindle Keyboard's e-ink screen will look a little bit more like a page of a book than PW2 will, which will look a little bit more like a screen.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:46 AM   #1967
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Received my replacement this morning, 1 tiny pinhole near the bottom that wouldn't be an issue, but the light on it is very noticeably blue

I've really enjoyed using the PW in the past few days, I'm quite enjoying the ease of use of the touch screen even though I previously loved the buttons on my K3, so I might just keep the first one. Compared to the replacement, the light is a more pleasant warm yellow except for a bit of a blue tinge at low levels - I can't even see any blue when I compare it to the replacement one, because it is blue at all light levels!

It's maddening. I said I wouldn't keep it unless I was perfectly happy, but here I am contemplating doing just that.....
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:13 PM   #1968
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Hi Jens,

Just out of curiosity, what do you still like about your KK? I have been considering upgrading from my KK but I keep wavering. I am not unhappy with it. I have an m-edge cover with the light which is still more convenient than a book. However the software on the PW2 intrigues me and, well, new devices are always fun!

Thanks,

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I went from a K3 to a PW2 as well. I liked the keyboard and the buttons. Ideally, the PW2 would have the buttons but it doesn't.

When the first touch screen devices were released I was not a happy camper. I was worried about fingerprints and how easy it would be to use the device with one hand. I complained about the lack of the keyboard.

A year or so later, I bought an iPad and loved it. I was reading, kind of, on the iPad. I say kind of because I was easily diistracted by my email, the internet, and the games I have loaded. I learned that the fingerprints don't bother me and the screen can be cleaned when there are prints.

I realized that I never use the keyboard so that was not really an issue.

I wanted something that I could read in bed with the lights off and easily on a plane at night. I knew that the read on the iPad experiment had been a complete failure. I got a PW2 and have loved it. You can easily hold it in one hand and change the page with the tap of a thumb. I have yet to clean the screen of fingerprints. The light works great. And I still don't use the virtual keyboard.

I have not played with any of the features (pinching, xray, or all that stuff) because the basic features work fine for me. I wouldn't mind page turn buttons but have found taping is easy enough. I have read 7 books in the 2 months I have had it, which is a massive improvement.

Overall, I am thrilled I made the move.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:51 PM   #1969
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It's maddening. I said I wouldn't keep it unless I was perfectly happy, but here I am contemplating doing just that.....
It's what many of us did, sadly. It is still better than the PW1 or reading on my iPad/Nexus....
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:33 PM   #1970
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Can anyone help out?
I may have a chance to pick up a KPW. The seller claims this is the PW2.
I think PW1 has "Kindle" etched at the back, and PW2 has "amazon" instead (from youtube videos of the unboxings)

Is there any other way to physically identify a KPW, as KPW1 or KPW2..handled isolated?
physically only the logo on the back. However, I think the PW1 has FW 5.3.x and the PW2 has FW 5.4.x.
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:51 PM   #1971
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I spent 7 hours in airports and in flight while traveling yesterday. I brought my PW2 and my Nexus 7.2. Started out reading on the PW2 in airport while awaiting a delayed flight. After reading for 1 hour my eyes were straining big time, so I switched to the Nexus 7.2 and was able to read another hour at the airport and 3 hours during flight. That makes the PW2 a big fail IMO! The screen was tinted blue while at the airport where lighting was bright. A lady across the isle from me had a K4S and her screen put my PW2 screen to shame.
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I spent 7 hours in airports and in flight while traveling yesterday. I brought my PW2 and my Nexus 7.2. Started out reading on the PW2 in airport while awaiting a delayed flight. After reading for 1 hour my eyes were straining big time, so I switched to the Nexus 7.2 and was able to read another hour at the airport and 3 hours during flight. That makes the PW2 a big fail IMO! The screen was tinted blue while at the airport where lighting was bright. A lady across the isle from me had a K4S and her screen put my PW2 screen to shame.
The fact that you picked the N7 over the PW is a real failure on the part of the pW. Luckily, I still prefer mine to my tablet screens.
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I am thinking about selling my PW1 and get the PW2 , do you guys think it's worth it? Thank you.
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I spent 7 hours in airports and in flight while traveling yesterday. I brought my PW2 and my Nexus 7.2. Started out reading on the PW2 in airport while awaiting a delayed flight. After reading for 1 hour my eyes were straining big time, so I switched to the Nexus 7.2 and was able to read another hour at the airport and 3 hours during flight. That makes the PW2 a big fail IMO! The screen was tinted blue while at the airport where lighting was bright. A lady across the isle from me had a K4S and her screen put my PW2 screen to shame.
I read on my K4B and yes it's a wonderful reader! Maybe you should pick you up one. The contrast it probably the best I've seen on a eInk Reader.
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Don't do it till you get one you like or you may regret selling it.
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I spent 7 hours in airports and in flight while traveling yesterday. I brought my PW2 and my Nexus 7.2. Started out reading on the PW2 in airport while awaiting a delayed flight. After reading for 1 hour my eyes were straining big time, so I switched to the Nexus 7.2 and was able to read another hour at the airport and 3 hours during flight. That makes the PW2 a big fail IMO! The screen was tinted blue while at the airport where lighting was bright. A lady across the isle from me had a K4S and her screen put my PW2 screen to shame.

Very odd. I find it incredibly unusual that you would find a Nexus or even an ipad preferable over a PW1 or PW2. With the light properly set the PW is the best reader for my eyes. Different strokes for different folks. If you read better on the Nexus enjoy and try to find a good Nexus book support forum.
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The fact that you picked the N7 over the PW is a real failure on the part of the pW. Luckily, I still prefer mine to my tablet screens.
In my case, as soon as I set the brightness of the KPW high enough to actually see that the reader is illuminated, then it just looks really weird to me; somewhat spooky-glowy-floaty-milky-white-blue. (Is that a word? Nope? Pity. Can't describe it otherwise.)

Therefore I set my front-light to a level to brighten the screen as much as possible without making it look illuminated. As soon as that starts to happen, I start to prefer a tablet.

Therefore, if the circumstances are such that I *always* see the Kindle glowing to be able to read, then I'd rather have a tablet, but this is fairly rare.
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Very odd. I find it incredibly unusual that you would find a Nexus or even an ipad preferable over a PW1 or PW2. With the light properly set the PW is the best reader for my eyes. Different strokes for different folks. If you read better on the Nexus enjoy and try to find a good Nexus book support forum.
I don't I own one and I can tell you reading on it wondeful! This isn't like past tablets. Reading on a tablet has really changed. It's no longer eye straining at all. The text is much better on on N7.2 than the Paperwhite.

I do get a little eye strain when reading on the PW1 if I don't take breaks every now and then. No problem with the K4B or the N7.2
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I don't I own one and I can tell you reading on it wondeful! This isn't like past tablets. Reading on a tablet has really changed. It's no longer eye straining at all. The text is much better on on N7.2 than the Paperwhite.

I do get a little eye strain when reading on the PW1 if I don't take breaks every now and then. No problem with the K4B or the N7.2
The Paperwhite 2013 is NOT a tablet. Obviously, tablets have far more uses than eReaders.

Thus, the proper comparison is the Kindle Fire HDX 2013 to the Nexus 7.

Personally, from what I read both are good tablets. However, the real choice is brand name and, of course, I reject all brands competing with Amazon brands due to the Amazon wide support network for thousands of products.

Neither Google nor Apple can match the Amazon consumer support net.

One feature is the instant Mayday feature on the HDX 2013 which neither the iPad nor Nexus can match. I use that feature all the time to reach Amazon Customer Support on all sorts of issues in SECONDS and I am not forwarded to India.

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The Paperwhite 2013 is NOT a tablet. Obviously, tablets have far more uses than eReaders.

Thus, the proper comparison is the Kindle Fire HDX 2013 to the Nexus 7.

Personally, from what I read both are good tablets. However, the real choice is brand name and, of course, I reject all brands competing with Amazon brands due to the Amazon wide support network for thousands of products.

Neither Google nor Apple can match the Amazon consumer support net.

One feature is the instant Mayday feature on the HDX 2013 which neither the iPad nor Nexus can match. I use that feature all the time to reach Amazon Customer Support on all sorts of issues in SECONDS and I am not forwarded to India.
Mayday is a joke! Both Times I use it the person couldn't find anything on the tablet I had to help them. If you want real help call Kindle support otherwise you get alot of misinformation.

It doesn't matter if it's a tablet or eInk it matters is how easy it is to read on it. Some people can't understand that the new tablets are just as easy to read on as eInk. The problem with frontlit readers are they do give you a tad of eyestrain unlike the unlit reader. It took my eyes about 3 months to adjust to the PW.
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