The word liseuse being used outside of MobileRead?

[TGS]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

One of the ones they gave to me was making me stand on my tiptoes (stockinged feet) with my nose pressed up against the wall for ages. The only thing is that they did this to me after one of the operations on my leg and I came home bleeding where the stitches had ruptured. Ahh Catholic school. The fondest of memories

Back straight against a wall, knees bent at 90 degrees, arms outstretched in front of you - move before you are told and you can come back after school and do it again. And the teaching was crap!

[FizzyWater]

Originally Posted by omk3

Sounds something like chitatel(v) - the v in the end is barely heard, it seems.
It is easy to find how a russian word is pronounced if you just look at the alphabet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet.

Originally Posted by HarryT

It's pronounced "chit-a-tell". I think it's rather a nice word!

Hmmm...it's been years (and years) since my college Russian classes. I would have said this would be more like:

chee-TOT-l.

The character at the end isn't the "v" in Russian, but a character that denotes whether to make the consonant "hard" or "soft". If I remember correctly, this is the "soft" character. So you de-emphasize the "L" sound.

Maybe that's close to Harry's - but to me, Harry's version looks a lot like citadel, with the emphasis on the last syllable, where I believe this would have the emphasis on the second and sort of swallow the last one.

But I'll be the first to admit, I'm long out of practice and could be wrong!

[omk3]

Originally Posted by FizzyWater

Hmmm...it's been years (and years) since my college Russian classes. I would have said this would be more like:

chee-TOT-l.

I have the lingvo dictionary, which was kind enough to have a sound sample for the word. It sounds chitAtel to me, and the a sounds more english with a tendency to ae rather than ah. Or maybe I'm hearing it wrong (?). The emphasis is clearly on the second syllable, of this I'm sure.

Originally Posted by FizzyWater

The character at the end isn't the "v" in Russian, but a character that denotes whether to make the consonant "hard" or "soft". If I remember correctly, this is the "soft" character. So you de-emphasize the "L" sound.

Thanks for the info, I didn't know of course. That's why no v is heard

[hidari]

Originally Posted by FizzyWater

Hmmm...it's been years (and years) since my college Russian classes. I would have said this would be more like:

chee-TOT-l.

The character at the end isn't the "v" in Russian, but a character that denotes whether to make the consonant "hard" or "soft". If I remember correctly, this is the "soft" character. So you de-emphasize the "L" sound.

Maybe that's close to Harry's - but to me, Harry's version looks a lot like citadel, with the emphasis on the last syllable, where I believe this would have the emphasis on the second and sort of swallow the last one.

But I'll be the first to admit, I'm long out of practice and could be wrong!

yes the Ь is called a мягкий знак (mʲæxʲkʲɪj znak) and as the god wiki says:a sign which, placed after a consonant, acts as a "silent front vowel", slightly palatalises the preceding consonant.....

I have spoken Russian for about ten years... and at times this little letter still causes me problems when speaking....however when speaking quickly in conversation it is generally not a problem....for me at least... Ы is much harder for beginning Russian speakers to get a grip on...

Well, the more names for ebook readers in English the better....bring them on ....how about a word from Ancient Greek HarryT?

[scveteran]

Originally Posted by AprilHare

Words can be introduced to an audience, you know!
The challenge still stands..

Words can be introduced to audiences. Introducing one that gives zero benefit, can also be done. But why would any one want to??

[GeoffC]

la liseuse ....

[GeoffC]

la belle liseuse

[TGS]

Originally Posted by GeoffC

la belle liseuse

Exactly - much nicer than this

[GeoffC]

even a French reading device company doesn't use it ... they use "le reader" ......

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by GeoffC

even a French reading device company doesn't use it ... they use "le reader" ......

"lecteur de livre électronique" ("reader of electronic books") appears to be the most popular French term, from what I've seen.

[GeoffC]

both are evident (providing I can trust Google Translate )

[pholy]

Something universal like a tech gadget can have it's own babel in each language.

Fixed that for ya!

Well, that's how I read it the first time...

[dmaul1114]

Originally Posted by pholy

Fixed that for ya!

Well, that's how I read it the first time...

That's just feel good non-sense. There will always be a tower of babel, there's never going to be a global language.

And if there is, it won't be something like French that's spoken by relatively few people around the globe, but would be something like Chinese or Spanish that's already the first language of huge numbers of people.

Add in the disdain many nations have for anything French/French Canadien and there's no way the French language is going to spread, or a term like Liseuse is going to become the commonly used term for e-readers around the globe.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

Add in the disdain many nations have for anything French/French Canadien and there's no way the French language is going to spread, or a term like Liseuse is going to become the commonly used term for e-readers around the globe.

But at least everyone on MR knows what it means now - which is a good thing don't you think?

[GeoffC]

Everyone who drops into the Llounge does ..... whether everyone on MR does, is another question that needs answering.

I keep wondering if this ought to be put up as a poll in the General Discussion forum (rather than the lounge).

Knowing doesn't, necessarily, equate with "using" .....