Frustrated with all the recent posts by Kindle-only authors - Page 13

Abecedary · 08-31-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomesque

Hrmmm... I just see a domain parking placeholder....?

Apparently it's bewrite.net.

First rule of successful marketing - make sure you know your own domain name.

neilmarr · 08-31-2009, 07:36 PM

Nope, Nomesque, I'm just one of the chaps here and offer our ebooks in thanks for the bloody brilliant advice and friendship I've had at MR recently. No skin off my nose (the hard work goes into the paperbacks) to offer something in return for what I find here. I guess I've had a couple of dozen emails from MR folks asking for books and sent out maybe a hundred or so ebooks, and the personal email swaps have been a bundle of fun and -- I think -- folks are pretty happy with what they're getting. Don't get your underwear in a twist, mate. Why not drop a line? Hoots. Neil

neilmarr · 08-31-2009, 07:40 PM

***First rule of successful marketing - make sure you know your own domain name***

Yep, Abecedary. But I'm very old and a bit Scottish, so you've got to give me a break. My job's to dot the eyes and cross the knees ... and, yup, I do get muddled sometimes with all the tech stuff. Let me off this time with a caution? Hoots. Neil

nomesque · 08-31-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilmarr

Don't get your underwear in a twist, mate. Why not drop a line? Hoots. Neil

Eh? I was just pointing out that your link didn't seem to be going where you expected...

*checking*

Underwear NOT in a twist.

No, really! Even my bra straps are untwisty

neilmarr · 08-31-2009, 07:57 PM

Hey, Nome -- I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Och, I feel rotten now. N

nomesque · 08-31-2009, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilmarr

Hey, Nome -- I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Och, I feel rotten now. N

That's OK. Seems no one has twisty undies, and that's the main thing

Abecedary · 08-31-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilmarr

***First rule of successful marketing - make sure you know your own domain name***

Yep, Abecedary. But I'm very old and a bit Scottish, so you've got to give me a break. My job's to dot the eyes and cross the knees ... and, yup, I do get muddled sometimes with all the tech stuff. Let me off this time with a caution? Hoots. Neil

No worries at all, Neil. There's nothing wrong with being old or Scottish. And it's not like you could help it even if there were.

Besides, it looks like you've got yourself a pretty successful little venture there, so a small misstep every now and again is perfectly acceptable.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 08-31-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BearMountainBooks

So I think it really depends on the card. I'd guess that 5 dollars is a pretty safe bet, but that is a GUESS.

I've sold my e-books for $3.50, originally as low as $2.50. Never (before this thread) have I heard of anyone who could not buy them through the paypal site because they were priced too low. And yes, Paypal takes a piece of the transaction, but it is a pittence... not worth taking your books out of their system.

DawnFalcon · 09-01-2009, 02:46 AM

Steve? No, you certainly can pay for them with paypal. The problem is paying directly with a card. $2.50 falls below the minimum I can do on a transaction on the credit card (and I won't use my debit card, because it charges me £1 for foreign transactions, if either the transaction processor or the recepient are foreign...)

WFT · 09-01-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Steve? No, you certainly can pay for them with paypal. The problem is paying directly with a card. $2.50 falls below the minimum I can do on a transaction on the credit card (and I won't use my debit card, because it charges me £1 for foreign transactions, if either the transaction processor or the recepient are foreign...)

That's so weird! I wonder why they do that? While PayPal fees aren't bad at all ($0.30 plus 3.9% for an international transaction), they're not the cheapest on transaction fees.

Most credit card merchant accounts hit the hardest on the monthly fees (which do not exist with PayPal's standard account) and early termination fees on merchant/processor contracts, not the transaction fees. The transaction fees for most credit card merchant accounts tend to be cheaper than PayPal. Why credit cards would refuse charges as low as $2.50 is beyond me!

The only thing out of which I can make sense is your point that your bank charges you £1 for foreign transactions for debit card purchases. That kind of fee I've heard before, although they're more rare here in the U.S.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 09-01-2009, 08:26 AM

That minimum charge is obviously not the same with every card merchant or country, which (I suppose) is why it never came up before. Of course, you don't usually expect to get e-mails from people saying, "I wanted to buy your book, but it was too cheap! Raise your prices, dude!"

One of the things that still needs further development is the micropay process. Most of the transaction fees and minimums we have today were set quite a while ago, and the advancements to the web, transactions and general efficiency, not to mention the fairly recent introduction of electronic-only products of potentially small stature, merit an adjustment to the fee system.

Unfortunately, the financial industries are almost as tightly entrenched in "the way we do it" as the publishing industry... one of the reasons we just witnessed the financial meltdown... and expecting them to make such a change will only come at considerable pain and expense... in short, we may eventually get it, but we probably won't like the hoops we'll be forced to jump through to get it...

Hmm... slightly

, methinks...

pshrynk · 09-01-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric C

I'm a Kindle indie author with a suspense novel offered at Kindle and at Scribd. I've sold nearly 300 books at Kindle in the last month and zero at Scribd, where anyone with a pc can read the novel or download it to their computer or use another e-reader.

Welcome to MR, Eric! Please go to the Writer's Corner and tell us about your work!

BearMountainBooks · 09-01-2009, 09:21 AM

Dawn is right though--credit cards and merchants often have rules about small purchases. I can't buy anything under a dollar with one of my cards (card rule). In some stores, they will not take a credit card if under x--because of the fees THEY pay. It takes too big of a cut percentage-wise (I think they pay a fee for use and then a percentage of the total.)

I gotta go check the scottish guy's site. Does he sell anything besides twisted underwear???

:>)

Maria

Elfwreck · 09-01-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomesque

Hrmmm... I just see a domain parking placeholder....?

Yep. It's supposed to be bewrite.NET.

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08-31-2009, 07:36 PM	#182
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,215 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Nope, Nomesque, I'm just one of the chaps here and offer our ebooks in thanks for the bloody brilliant advice and friendship I've had at MR recently. No skin off my nose (the hard work goes into the paperbacks) to offer something in return for what I find here. I guess I've had a couple of dozen emails from MR folks asking for books and sent out maybe a hundred or so ebooks, and the personal email swaps have been a bundle of fun and -- I think -- folks are pretty happy with what they're getting. Don't get your underwear in a twist, mate. Why not drop a line? Hoots. Neil

08-31-2009, 07:40 PM	#183
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,215 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	*First rule of successful marketing - make sure you know your own domain name* Yep, Abecedary. But I'm very old and a bit Scottish, so you've got to give me a break. My job's to dot the eyes and cross the knees ... and, yup, I do get muddled sometimes with all the tech stuff. Let me off this time with a caution? Hoots. Neil

08-31-2009, 07:57 PM	#185
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,215 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Hey, Nome -- I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Och, I feel rotten now. N

09-01-2009, 02:46 AM	#189
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	Steve? No, you certainly can pay for them with paypal. The problem is paying directly with a card. $2.50 falls below the minimum I can do on a transaction on the credit card (and I won't use my debit card, because it charges me £1 for foreign transactions, if either the transaction processor or the recepient are foreign...)

09-01-2009, 08:26 AM	#191
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	That minimum charge is obviously not the same with every card merchant or country, which (I suppose) is why it never came up before. Of course, you don't usually expect to get e-mails from people saying, "I wanted to buy your book, but it was too cheap! Raise your prices, dude!" One of the things that still needs further development is the micropay process. Most of the transaction fees and minimums we have today were set quite a while ago, and the advancements to the web, transactions and general efficiency, not to mention the fairly recent introduction of electronic-only products of potentially small stature, merit an adjustment to the fee system. Unfortunately, the financial industries are almost as tightly entrenched in "the way we do it" as the publishing industry... one of the reasons we just witnessed the financial meltdown... and expecting them to make such a change will only come at considerable pain and expense... in short, we may eventually get it, but we probably won't like the hoops we'll be forced to jump through to get it... Hmm... slightly , methinks...

09-01-2009, 09:21 AM	#193
BearMountainBooks Maria Schneider Posts: 3,746 Karma: 26439330 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard	Dawn is right though--credit cards and merchants often have rules about small purchases. I can't buy anything under a dollar with one of my cards (card rule). In some stores, they will not take a credit card if under x--because of the fees THEY pay. It takes too big of a cut percentage-wise (I think they pay a fee for use and then a percentage of the total.) I gotta go check the scottish guy's site. Does he sell anything besides twisted underwear??? :>) Maria

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