Seriously thoughtful Let's be civil, please

[hidari]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Me either Florence.

But I do think using an alias increases the likely hood.

True..>But my first Name is Michael.... SO, I might as well say my name is Toilet, Jellyfish, Ham, Serge, Zhenya, Yoko.... Point being my name is as common as toilet paper... What is the point of saying may real name....Not many MR freaks in my neck of the woods..... Hokkaido, Japan....

[kazbates]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

The flaw in the rule being, of course, the assumption that others want the same things that you do.

Very true, but I can't imagine that many people want to be treated so negatively. Of course, I tend to be a bit of a Pollyanna.

Originally Posted by GraceKrispy

I missed a heck of a lot of conversation whilst I was sleeping and working and watching a movie (Date Night- very funny). But I wanted to pipe in with this comment :



I use my real name too! Me me !!

Well, part of it. Iʻll leave it to you to guess which part.

I do too, with a bit of a variation that I think suits me more than my given name!

Originally Posted by kennyc

Me either Florence.

Ditto!! I'm constantly looking for a medication for my "Foot in Mouth" disease.

Originally Posted by hidari

True..>But my first Name is Michael.... SO, I might as well say my name is Toilet, Jellyfish, Ham, Serge, Zhenya, Yoko.... Point being my name is as common as toilet paper... What is the point of saying may real name....Not many MR freaks in my neck of the woods..... Hokkaido, Japan....

I love the name Michael and would have liked to have given my son that name but my aggravating oldest brother has the name and the rights to it in our family!

I've always told my students to be proud of who they are because there isn't anyone else like them anywhere even if they have the same name as someone else (multiple children with the same name in one classroom can cause some confusion and angst with very young children, especially when they've been the little prince or princess at home for their formative years ).

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by kazbates

Very true, but I can't imagine that many people want to be treated so negatively. Of course, I tend to be a bit of a Pollyanna.

Okay, thinking up a realistic example-- say your mate has had a really bad day. Say if you've had a bad day, you would want to have company, so you stay right at said mate's side. But-- it so happens-- how the mate prefers to be treated after a bad day is to be left alone to unwind, and all the time you are attached at mate's hip, mate is thinking "would you please just go the hell away for one freaking minute?"

That is a case of "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" and you are annoying the heck out of the other by doing it. Better would be to "do unto others as they would have you do unto them."

You can think up any number of possible situations on your own, it isn't "people wanting to be treated negatively", it is other people having different ideas of positive treatment than you.

I've always told my students to be proud of who they are because there isn't anyone else like them anywhere even if they have the same name as someone else

You need this to hang in your classroom:

http://despair.com/individuality.html

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by kazbates

The bottom line: Treat people the way you want them to treat you. It's really very simple.

Originally Posted by kennyc

Ye ol' Golden Rule!

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Which is found in some form in most of our modern religions, and even many secular philosophies. ...And in my opinion, it's a great rule for everyone to follow.

Originally Posted by ardeegee

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

The flaw in the rule being, of course, the assumption that others want the same things that you do.

Yes, but as a general maxim, it's hard to beat, and as your link shows, it transcends cultures and has withstood the test of time.

Another link on that sight focuses more on philosophers and others who have given us some form of the Golden Rule. I can't be sure if all of these quotes are accurate, however, because they don't reference the original sources; but I've long felt that Kant's Categorical Imperative can be reduced to a clever re-phrasing of the Golden Rule.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc3.htm

To be sure, there are probably exceptions for every rule, and entire books could be written on all the nuances and situational modifications that a thoughtful moral agent would do well to take into consideration in its application; but for a summation of ethical behavior that's easily understood and fits on a t-shirt, IMO the Golden Rule is without peer.

[kazbates]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Okay, thinking up a realistic example-- say your mate has had a really bad day. Say if you've had a bad day, you would want to have company, so you stay right at said mate's side. But-- it so happens-- how the mate prefers to be treated after a bad day is to be left alone to unwind, and all the time you are attached at mate's hip, mate is thinking "would you please just go the hell away for one freaking minute?"

That is a case of "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" and you are annoying the heck out of the other by doing it. Better would be to "do unto others as they would have you do unto them."

You can think up any number of possible situations on your own, it isn't "people wanting to be treated negatively", it is other people having different ideas of positive treatment than you.



You need this to hang in your classroom:

http://despair.com/individuality.html

Considering your mate is a friend, you should know how he would like to be treated, even if it is different from how you would want a friend to help you through a difficult day. As Tom has stated, every rule has it's exceptions but for a jumping off point in dealing with others, the Golden Rule. . .well, RULES!

[HorridRedDog]

I am guilty of not reading EVERYTHING here, so it seems appropriate to throw my 2 cents in.

1) Everyone repeat after me:
"Anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot."

2) And now:
"I will never argue with an idiot."

If you do not agree with this solution see 1 and 2 above. Problem solved.

[YGG-]

Originally Posted by HorridRedDog

I am guilty of not reading EVERYTHING here, so it seems appropriate to throw my 2 cents in.

1) Everyone repeat after me:
"Anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot."

2) And now:
"I will never argue with an idiot."

If you do not agree with this solution see 1 and 2 above. Problem solved.

I'm gonna use that !

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Better would be to "do unto others as they would have you do unto them."[/url]

I would have the loo seat being left up be done unto me.

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I would have the loo seat being left up be done unto me.

not guilty ....

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I would have the loo seat being left up be done unto me.

Originally Posted by GeoffC

not guilty ....

Guilty. I always put the seat back down for the ladies except when my grandson's home. He's lazy, if you catch my drift!

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Guilty. I always put the seat back down for the ladies except when my grandson's home. He's lazy, if you catch my drift!

Yes - I know the feeling well .... in my case - the SON !


Ps - I'm being Civil about this - BUT it's FRIDAY (Isn't it ?) nudge nudge ...

[GlennD]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Guilty. I always put the seat back down for the ladies except when my grandson's home. He's lazy, if you catch my drift!

My wife and I figured out the easy solution to this - we both put the seat AND the lid down, and train the kids to do the same.

Having a dog in the house does help get this one ingrained, I must admit.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by GlennD

My wife and I figured out the easy solution to this - we both put the seat AND the lid down, and train the kids to do the same.

Having a dog in the house does help get this one ingrained, I must admit.

Then how's the dog supposed to get a drink?

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Then how's the dog supposed to get a drink?

Yeah! How?

[GlennD]

She uses the bowl intended for her in the kitchen, rather the bowl intended for 'waste' in the bathroom. Crazy, I know.