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Old 02-05-2010, 04:44 AM   #166
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Kann das so funktionieren?
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:54 AM   #168
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Die Preisbindung wurde ja schon mit der Öffnung des Kindle-Stores für deutsche Titel im Januar übertölpelt. Apple wird hier noch eines oben drauf setzen.

Entweder werden die gesetzlichen Regelungen daraufhin restriktiver oder sie lockern sich endlich. Ich hoffe auf zweites, befürchte ersteres.

Ich wüsste auch nicht, was notfalls gegen einen Kompromiss spräche. Buchpreisbindung okay, aber dann werden Aktionszeiträume von x Wochen festgelegt, in denen ein Titel bis zu 25% günstiger angeboten werden kann. Und das einmal pro Kalenderjahr.
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Die Preisbindung wurde ja schon mit der Öffnung des Kindle-Stores für deutsche Titel im Januar übertölpelt. Apple wird hier noch eines oben drauf setzen.

Entweder werden die gesetzlichen Regelungen daraufhin restriktiver oder sie lockern sich endlich. Ich hoffe auf zweites, befürchte ersteres.

Ich wüsste auch nicht, was notfalls gegen einen Kompromiss spräche. Buchpreisbindung okay, aber dann werden Aktionszeiträume von x Wochen festgelegt, in denen ein Titel bis zu 25% günstiger angeboten werden kann. Und das einmal pro Kalenderjahr.
Habe gerade 'ne Mail von ciando gekriegt: 75%!! Clara & Paula von Gunna Wendt sieben Tage lang reduziert! Ist zwar nur PDF, aber von 19€ auf 5 € reduziert.
(cf hier: http://www.ciando.com/shop/book/shor.../nl83203840314)

Wie bitte geht das denn bei Buchpreisbindung?
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Ist eine zeitlich befristete Sonderaktion. Das Preisbindungsgesetz lässt da durchaus einige Ausnahmen zu.
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Habe gerade 'ne Mail von ciando gekriegt: 75%!! Clara & Paula von Gunna Wendt sieben Tage lang reduziert! Ist zwar nur PDF, aber von 19€ auf 5 € reduziert.

Wie bitte geht das denn bei Buchpreisbindung?
Die vielen Ausnahmen ... und als PDF ja auch ein Mängelexemplar für e-Reader.

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An den richtigen Stellen kann es nie zuviel weiblichkeit geben
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Ist eine zeitlich befristete Sonderaktion. Das Preisbindungsgesetz lässt da durchaus einige Ausnahmen zu.
Mmmh, ernsthaft, das müsste aber dann irgendwo vermerkt sein. Ich denke eher, dass ciando es drauf ankommen lässt.

Nachtrag: Ah, seh' grad, "Angebot der Woche". Trotzdem, mal ciando den Börsenverein auf den Hals hetzen.

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Steht sieben Tage da.
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Hehe, die machen bestimmt einfach einen "PDF-Räumungsverkauf". Hm, aber eigentlich hast Du recht, zumindest eine Kennzeichnung müsste vorhanden sein.
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Ich denke, dass Apple es mit dem iBooks Store auch nach und nach gezielt darauf ankommen lassen wird. Steter Tropfen höhlt den Stein.

Dazu noch Amazon und deutsche Kindle-Editionen, die sich um Buchpreisbindung auch nicht scheren ...
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Also zumindest im Ciando Newsletter steht der Vermerk "* Preisbindung aufgehoben".

Das man zeitlich begrentzte Sonderaktionen machen kann wäre mir neu.
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Also zumindest im Ciando Newsletter steht der Vermerk "* Preisbindung aufgehoben".
Ah, dann ist es einer der seltenen Fälle, in dem die Preisbindung tatsächlich aufgehoben wurde. Sollte ja eigentlich mit allen Büchern älter als 18 Monate möglich sein, wird nur selten genutzt.

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Alles was sich irgendwie als Räumungs- oder Abverkauf definieren lässt. Hast Du also vor, ein eBook aus dem Programm zu nehmen oder im Rahmen einer Einführungsphase als "special edition" zu verticken, könntest Du theoretisch eine Verfügbarkeitsspanne (Stückzahl) gebunden an eine Frist festlegen und einen virtuellen Abverkauf mit anderem Preis starten.
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Dann muss der Preis aber auch dauerhaft gesenkt sein. Das gilt ja nicht für ein "Angebot der Woche".

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Alles was sich irgendwie als Räumungs- oder Abverkauf definieren lässt.
Das gilt nur, wenn der Buchladen geschlossen wird (Link, Punkt 5)! Danach sieht es bei Ciando nicht aus.

Ist zwar alles gerade völlig OT, aber macht es Sinn, dafür einen neuen Fred aufzumachen?
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Bindung aufgehoben = Preis frei festlegbar, solange nicht sittenwidrig. Alle Preisspielereien sollten dann möglich sein...

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Das gilt nur, wenn der Buchladen geschlossen wird (Link, Punkt 5)! Danach sieht es bei Ciando nicht aus.
Hast leider recht, mein Fehler. Auch für Vorverkäufe zu günstigeren Preisen gibt es kein Äquivalent mehr. Da waren ja die früher üblichen Sammelreverse oftmals noch liberaler!

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Ist zwar alles gerade völlig OT, aber macht es Sinn, dafür einen neuen Fred aufzumachen?
Nee, ich glaube wir sind mit einem der lästigsten Gesetze Deutschlands erstmal soweit durch...
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