Firmware 4.38.21908 - Page 12

Aleron Ives · 09-25-2023, 05:05 PM

Interesting. I always eject from the tray, so maybe I'll try ejecting from Explorer next time to see if it behaves differently.

Tawn · 09-25-2023, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

How long did you have to wait? I tried waiting a minute (maybe even a few minutes), but the connected and charging screen didn't go away until I unplugged the USB cable. Perhaps it depends upon your version of Windows.

A few minutes? Maybe 5 at times? Certainly not more than 10. Since I'd noticed the slowness, I just do other things on the computer & then come back to it. So I'm not really paying attention to exactly how long.

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

Interesting. I always eject from the tray, so maybe I'll try ejecting from Explorer next time to see if it behaves differently.

The safely remove hardware thing never seemed to work correctly for me (on the kobo), so I always do it from explorer. So, yeah, I'd recommend trying that.

hatuluang · 09-26-2023, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tawn

The safely remove hardware thing never seemed to work correctly for me (on the kobo), so I always do it from explorer. So, yeah, I'd recommend trying that.

If my device is connected to Calibre, I use "smart eject" (there is a plugin for that). If it connected to my PC without using Calibre, I right-clicked and ejected the device from Explorer as per your comment. (I'm using Windows 10).

bearymore · 09-26-2023, 03:45 PM

I'm using Calibre 6.27 under Linux (OpenSUSE 15.5 and KDE). I've not experienced this bug. I just loaded 8 books from Calibre to my Sage and disconnected from Calibre. The books were imported before I even had a chance to unplug.

Aleron Ives · 09-28-2023, 08:52 PM

I can confirm that ejecting from Explorer releases the lock screen on Windows 7, too. It's only ejecting from the tray that requires you to unplug the cable to dismiss the "Connected and Charging" screen.

Phil_C · 09-28-2023, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

I can confirm that ejecting from Explorer releases the lock screen on Windows 7, too. It's only ejecting from the tray that requires you to unplug the cable to dismiss the "Connected and Charging" screen.

I tested this in Win 11 and find the same behavior. Never knew there was difference between the two.

Aleron Ives · 09-28-2023, 10:41 PM

Me neither. I've never ejected a USB device from the Explorer window before; I've always used the tray.

JSWolf · 09-29-2023, 05:15 AM

I've not used the tray to eject with Windows 11. It's always been either Explorer or calibre.

Calenorn · 09-29-2023, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

I can confirm that ejecting from Explorer releases the lock screen on Windows 7, too. It's only ejecting from the tray that requires you to unplug the cable to dismiss the "Connected and Charging" screen.

I remember a similar problem ejecting the older NOOKs. Using the tray was risky. Windows will display a message that is safe to eject; don't believe it!

I've developed the habit (with Kobos now) to watch the reader screen. When the cover thumbnails images all appear (on "My Books" page, for example), it's probably safe to unplug the reader.

Aleron Ives · 09-29-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Calenorn

I remember a similar problem ejecting the older NOOKs. Using the tray was risky. Windows will display a message that is safe to eject; don't believe it!

I've never had a problem with data corruption when ejecting from the tray. The device will disappear from the Explorer window, and if the device is still in use, ejecting from the tray will fail, as it should.

Phil_C · 09-29-2023, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

I've never had a problem with data corruption when ejecting from the tray. The device will disappear from the Explorer window, and if the device is still in use, ejecting from the tray will fail, as it should.

Exactly. You do have to unplug before seeing the Home screen -- because it never comes up until you unplug -- but it has caused no problems.

I do wait about five seconds before unplugging, though. I once had a flash drive with an activity light that kept flashing for a couple of seconds AFTER the Windows message that it was safe to unplug.

Sirtel · 09-29-2023, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil_C

I do wait about five seconds before unplugging, though. I once had a flash drive with an activity light that kept flashing for a couple of seconds AFTER the Windows message that it was safe to unplug.

I have several external drives that do it, i.e. the activity light continues to blink after the Windows message, and not just for a couple of seconds. I just unplug anyway, as any file transfer has usually been finished long ago. No issues so far.

As to my ereaders, those I always eject from Calibre and wait with unplugging until the processing has ended and the home screen has appeared.

Aleron Ives · 09-29-2023, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil_C

I do wait about five seconds before unplugging, though.

I doubt that precaution is necessary. If any files were still open, ejecting would have failed.

compurandom · 09-30-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

I doubt that precaution is necessary. If any files were still open, ejecting would have failed.

Depends on the drive. Some drives might buffer the data and tell the OS it's done, but then keep writing the buffer to media. If you unplug too soon, the data might be in ram (or short term flash) and not written to the final media yet. (And it might need power to complete that.)

If the drive has an activity light and it's still blinking after eject, this is a sure thing.

Also, in linux, unmounting the filesystem and ejecting the drive are separate steps, although both should flush the data. The eject or udisks cli command might only do one of those depending on how you do it, although the gui file manager eject button should do both.

In Windows, it is possible the tray button unmounts the filesystem without flushing the data (although it should finish writing in a few seconds) and the file manager eject button both unmounts the filesystem and ejects the disk.

I know for sure the few times I connect my kobo to a windows system, it doesn't eject the disk when I use the tray button. I don't recall if I've ever tried the file manager eject button -- I will have to try that next time.

ownedbycats · 10-07-2023, 04:55 PM

So I just connected while having a book open. Promptly got a 'there's an error with this drive' message.... I used Calibre to eject, rebooted the device, and re-connected to update my fanfics.

Then when I ejected, SmartEject told me that there was a missing book on the device. One of my Kobo Store-bought books, one of the first ones I'd purchased actually. Repair Account brought it back, but what a weird thing to happen.

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09-25-2023, 05:05 PM	#166
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,773 Karma: 16319690 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Interesting. I always eject from the tray, so maybe I'll try ejecting from Explorer next time to see if it behaves differently.

09-26-2023, 03:45 PM	#169
bearymore Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 39270 Join Date: May 2010 Device: Kobo Aura One	I'm using Calibre 6.27 under Linux (OpenSUSE 15.5 and KDE). I've not experienced this bug. I just loaded 8 books from Calibre to my Sage and disconnected from Calibre. The books were imported before I even had a chance to unplug.

09-28-2023, 08:52 PM	#170
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,773 Karma: 16319690 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	I can confirm that ejecting from Explorer releases the lock screen on Windows 7, too. It's only ejecting from the tray that requires you to unplug the cable to dismiss the "Connected and Charging" screen.

09-28-2023, 10:41 PM	#172
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,773 Karma: 16319690 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Me neither. I've never ejected a USB device from the Explorer window before; I've always used the tray.

09-29-2023, 05:15 AM	#173
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've not used the tray to eject with Windows 11. It's always been either Explorer or calibre.

10-07-2023, 04:55 PM	#180
ownedbycats Custom User Title Posts: 11,351 Karma: 79528341 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD	So I just connected while having a book open. Promptly got a 'there's an error with this drive' message.... I used Calibre to eject, rebooted the device, and re-connected to update my fanfics. Then when I ejected, SmartEject told me that there was a missing book on the device. One of my Kobo Store-bought books, one of the first ones I'd purchased actually. Repair Account brought it back, but what a weird thing to happen.

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