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Of course, this being the real world where conversations flow, I would probably tell them there were follow-ons, written by others. Though I'd be more likely to do that after they finished the book and we'd probably have an interesting conversation about the merits of sequels with or without the creator's involvement and so on. But back to being succinct, Gone with the Wind isn't the first book in a series. |
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If not, then no series. Did someone else later take advantage of Rhett and Scarlett? |
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![]() There were a couple of 'authorized continuations' - Scarlett by Alexandra Ripley and Rhett Butler's People by Donald McCraig. McCraig also wrote a prequel called Ruth's Journey. The one that I would actually have an interest in reading is the parody The Wind Done Gone by Alice Randall, a parody of the book that tells the same story from the perspective of a slave. Last edited by ZodWallop; 11-16-2017 at 05:15 PM. |
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Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice is a longtime favorite of mine. I really don't think books written 200 years later (with zombies!) are part of a series with the original. |
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Did MM authorize those continuations? |
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There were a couple of 'authorized continuations': Scarlett by Alexandra Ripley Rhett Butler's People by Donald McCraig McCraig also wrote a prequel called Ruth's Journey. |
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Personally, I consider it a good idea to note if a book is part of a common universe/setting, a series, multi-book epic and otherwise it's reasonable to assume none of the above. The common universe/setting includes things like Star Trek, follow-on Sherlock Holmes books, Nancy Drew or any other group of books sharing a setting and/or characters without necessarily influencing each other (I do realize that there are series within a larger common setting - I'd expect both to be noted). A series will have references to events in other books although the degree to which past events influences the characters or setting will vary (past events have only a minimal effect in many detective series). A multi-book epic is when the main plot covers the entire series such that the series can be described as as complete or incomplete. |
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Take Pratchett's Discworld novels as an example. There have been lengthy arguments here about what order they should be read in (that we don't need to repeat), but it is apparent that Pratchett intended that it would be possible for someone to just pick up any one of these novels and read it, without having read anything else. (At the start of Lords and Ladies he adds a note starting "By and large, most Discworld books have stood by themselves, as complete books." and then proceeds to tell you what you need to know so this book, too, could be read on its own.) Pratchett wasn't trying to tell anyone that they should read them alone, only that they could read them alone. And this is largely my point: "stand-alone" and "self-contained" both indicate that a book could be read alone. How is that not objective? It in no way tries to tell people who prefer some other other reading order that they must obey the directive, it only tells them that it could be this way ... if that's okay with them. Those of us that prefer to read books in some particular order (for me it's publication order), will do additional research. Like you, I would prefer to know if a book is totally unrelated to anything else the author has written, but I'm never going to accept another person's "stand-alone" description as meaning that, they will have to be more explicit. |
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DiapDealer, here's a little contribution to the database of unexpected connections:
I recently read Lamb by Christopher Moore. It turns out that there is a connection between that and his first published book Practical Demonkeeping. It's not something that - in my opinion - would warrant recommending that you should read Practical Demonkeeping first (which is an amusing story but not much more, whereas Lamb impressed me very much). The only other book of his that I've read so far is Fool, which I also enjoyed very much. No connections in Fool (that I noticed) but given the nature of the connection in Lamb I would not be surprised to find more as I read more of his books. Beware! ![]() |
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My favorite book of Moore's is Bloodsucking Fiends. Apache |
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I think there's a difference between an author writing books that require a reader to have read previous books to understand various plot points and an author dropping winking references for fans into their work. As for Christopher Moore, I have several of his early books. I read Bloodsucking Fiends and I just didn't get much out of it. Maybe I'm just too dour. |
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I absolutely love Easter Eggs, inside jokes, winking references, and all the subtle things that can occur with even the most tenuous of connections between an author's various books (when read in such an order that those things reveal themselves in a chronologically "correct" manner). I would be saddened to find out that I missed out on any of those things by not knowing that the books were loosely connected (or part of a shared universe) in the first place, and starting with the wrong (wrong for me) book. Last edited by DiapDealer; 11-17-2017 at 12:41 PM. |
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