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Old 04-07-2016, 10:35 AM   #166
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So there is some truth in the article? From what I recall, the article states that Amazon wants agency pricing. So they didn't fight very hard against it? So what is the true case? It sounds to me like you're saying that, yes, Amazon do want to keep agency pricing. *confused*
No, they didn't fight *very* hard...
They only resisted for six months of public insults, calls for boycotts, being compared to murderous military dictators...

That industry insider, btw, makes his living as a consultant to tradpub. How many accounts would he keep if he publicly told people (authors!) that the reason their income went down was the publishers' fault?

The comment I saw came to him *third hand* via an agent.

Calling the statement propaganda is being kind.

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Old 04-07-2016, 10:36 AM   #167
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So there is some truth in the article? From what I recall, the article states that Amazon wants agency pricing. So they didn't fight very hard against it? So what is the true case? It sounds to me like you're saying that, yes, Amazon do want to keep agency pricing. *confused*
You're suggesting a false dichotomy.
Amazon could simply be making the best of it whether they especially wanted it compared to other options or not.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:44 AM   #168
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What has this thread turned into...
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:50 AM   #169
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What has this thread turned into...
It's an Amazon thread.
Those usually turn into Amazon is evil for not selling epub or Amazon is evil and wants to take over the world.

After a while you learn to wade through it and try to steer things back on track...
...or go to another thread.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:50 AM   #170
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You're suggesting a false dichotomy.
Nope. I'm trying to get to the truth of what Amazon's intentions were, whatever they were.
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:00 AM   #171
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Nope. I'm trying to get to the truth of what Amazon's intentions were, whatever they were.
Why is that in any way likely to influence the feature set that a new Kindle has, which is the topic of this thread?
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:23 AM   #172
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It's an Amazon thread.
Those usually turn into Amazon is evil for not selling epub or Amazon is evil and wants to take over the world.

After a while you learn to wade through it and try to steer things back on track...
...or go to another thread.
I will finish by pointing out that this (sub-)discussion began with your post:

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All *that* could have happened...
...if the market had been allowed to mature naturally.

The Agency Conspiracy and the four hour price war put an end to it in June 2010.
Now we deal with the consequences: walled gardens as far as the eye can see.
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:44 AM   #173
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It's an Amazon thread.
Those usually turn into Amazon is evil for not selling epub or Amazon is evil and wants to take over the world.

After a while you learn to wade through it and try to steer things back on track...
...or go to another thread.
Big successful companies aren't nesscarily the most moral ones,that's how big business has and will always be.

It's like complaining about Walmart or tescos for putting plenty of smaller shops out of business, why bring all this up now?

If you want everyone to live by a level playing field maybe you'd be better off moving to a communist country,modern capatalim sucks
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Big successful companies aren't nesscarily the most moral ones,that's how big business has and will always be.

It's like complaining about Walmart or tescos for putting plenty of smaller shops out of business, why bring all this up now?

If you want everyone to live by a level playing field maybe you'd be better off moving to a communist country,modern capatalim sucks
Hi. It seems every thread about Amazon turns into a Amazon is awesome vs Amazon is evil thread.

Not just here but all Amazon based threads in forums.

My personal opinion on that tweet is Jeff wanted to stir the pot and maybe possibly find out what some of his customers would like to see in a kindle.

I think this because he said details not a new Kindle would be out next week.
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I think this because he said details not a new Kindle would be out next week.
That's entirely normal. Amazon often announce new products that don't actually go on sale for a month or two.
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That's entirely normal. Amazon often announce new products that don't actually go on sale for a month or two.
And glad we are back to normal.
Hey now, I like my theory even if it is completely wrong.
You are right though since I do believe the term is called creating a buzz.
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Hi. It seems every thread about Amazon turns into a Amazon is awesome vs Amazon is evil thread.

Not just here but all Amazon based threads in forums.

My personal opinion on that tweet is Jeff wanted to stir the pot and maybe possibly find out what some of his customers would like to see in a kindle.

I think this because he said details not a new Kindle would be out next week.
Whatever it is I hope he announces it early in the week and not the following Sunday,don't want this thread to get too much out of hand

Regardless of what Amazon might of done in the past it's not as if other big players in the tech space such as Micro$oft,Google or Apple haven't tried to monopolise and centralise the markets to each of their respective dominant platforms,THEY ARE ALL GUILTY!
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That's entirely normal. Amazon often announce new products that don't actually go on sale for a month or two.
I would advise everyone on here to get their pre-order in sharpish even if we have to wait a month out,the voyage if I remember had a wait time of upto a month after it released here in the uk shortly after launch.
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I think somebody told Bezos hey Jeff could you give some Twitter love to your boring old Amazon business and not just your hot new hobby Blue Horizon? No need to read too much into it

I hope it's a better grayscale reader rather than a good enough color reader. I have an OLED tablet. That's now my standard for a good color screen. LCD is "good enough." Sub LCD ... ugh.
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Better in which ways?
Better contrast? Battery life? Weight? New features?

The main interest is in the high ender, not the accompanying low end model so what would you like to see in a new top kindle?

Me, I'd be interested in 8in with a plastic substrate display to keep the weight down. Color optional. Audio/Alexa integration would rank higher than color, really.
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