Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > General Discussions

Notices

View Poll Results: When side loading: Your own content or "from somewhere else"?
I'm very much into sideloading. 80 60.61%
I don't care much about sideloading. 5 3.79%
I buy from my merchant of choice, strip from DRM and sideload to my hardware of choice. 103 78.03%
I download my content for free from "somewhere else", maybe convert to the target format and sideload to my hardware of choice. 12 9.09%
I'm sideloading to save my invest (=not losing books you originally bought in another format). 75 56.82%
I'm sideloading to save money (=not having to buy all books, but find some "somewhere else"). 9 6.82%
I'm mainly converting to ePUB, it's the most open and versatile format. 38 28.79%
I'm converting to whatever format I need for my momentary hardware of choice. 39 29.55%
I try to avoid paying for eBooks, it's easy to find all my stuff online. 2 1.52%
I don't mind paying for eBooks, it's relatively cheap anyway. 48 36.36%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-11-2014, 04:01 AM   #166
Xanthe
Plan B Is Now In Force
Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xanthe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Xanthe's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,894
Karma: 8086979
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Surebleak
Device: Aluratek,Sony 350/T1,Pandigital,eBM 911,Nook HD/HD+,Fire HDX 7/8.9,PW2
I realize that, but I was wondering why it was done that way, given the ambiguity of the wording of the questions and how some are interpreting them in regards to piracy. Why on earth should people put their names to a poll where their responses could be so easily misconstrued, to their detriment?
Xanthe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 05:16 AM   #167
Katsunami
Grand Sorcerer
Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Katsunami's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,111
Karma: 34000001
Join Date: Mar 2008
Device: KPW1, KA1
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
In my own case it's very much because I've been buying books for an awful lot of years, and from all sorts of different sources, many of which no longer exist (eg FictionWise, BooksOnBoard). Maintaining my ebook library in a single place (Calibre), and sideloading all my content means that I have a single central point where all my books are stored, and no worries about trying to remember where I bought each book from, or what devices I can load it onto. I can read all my books on all my devices.
Says it all. (Except that I've only been buying books for three years.)
Katsunami is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 11-11-2014, 09:44 AM   #168
rixte
Addict
rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rixte ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
rixte's Avatar
 
Posts: 300
Karma: 396757
Join Date: Nov 2007
Device: new oasis, paperwhite, ipad, kobo
I would say it's pretty simple - most pirates sideload, and I think that's obvious. Particularly those who use eink devices - not exactly the speediest at navigating the web!

I don't think that there's any reason to believe most sideloaders are pirates, however.
rixte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 10:28 AM   #169
dublincheri
Zealot
dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.dublincheri ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 121
Karma: 3000000
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: New England (for now)
Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Paperwhite 11, Basic 2022
Mine are all books I've bought from various sources over the years - most were MSLit for my PocketPC - and converted to use first on my iPod touch then iPad and later Kindle. Most were from Fictionwise, Books on Board and Powells. Unfortunately some of my books were lost, and by keeping them in Calibre I hope not to lose any more.
dublincheri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 10:44 AM   #170
Ripplinger
350 Hoarder
Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ripplinger ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ripplinger's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,574
Karma: 8281267
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Midwest USA
Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2
Quote:
Originally Posted by rixte View Post
...
I don't think that there's any reason to believe most sideloaders are pirates, however.
Totally agree. My first reader was a Sony 350 which didn't have wi-fi. That was never an issue for me because I prefer buying all my books through my PC only and then putting them right into Calibre, then I have collections sorted exactly how I want on the reader. Even though I now have a reader with wi-fi, I still never purchase through the reader. There's never a time I don't have at least 400 unread books with me, there's no reason I'd ever need to buy any book right that minute through the reader. So I sideload all my books.

I always worried about what happens if I lose an ereader or it's stolen, and anyone can then buy up hundreds of books before I realized it was gone since the reader stays logged in.
Ripplinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 11-11-2014, 10:47 AM   #171
PurpleStar
Wizard
PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.PurpleStar ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,625
Karma: 11387182
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Canada
Device: Kobo Clara BW, Kindle Paperwhite (11th Gen)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripplinger View Post

I always worried about what happens if I lose an ereader or it's stolen, and anyone can then buy up hundreds of books before I realized it was gone since the reader stays logged in.
This is one reason why I use a "dummy" account(not the account I buy books with) on my Kobo and sideload everything rather than sync. That and the Kobo desktop app is slow as heck to load books.
PurpleStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 11:10 AM   #172
Katsunami
Grand Sorcerer
Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Katsunami ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Katsunami's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,111
Karma: 34000001
Join Date: Mar 2008
Device: KPW1, KA1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rixte View Post
I don't think that there's any reason to believe most sideloaders are pirates, however.
I really hope so.

I've bought all of my books legally (or downloaded free ones legally), and I sideload everything. I actually have to, most of the time, as I prefer EPUB as my base format, while my primary e-reader is a Kindle. Therefore I have to remove DRM and then sideload before I can read.

Additionally, I don't want to be dependent on any manufacturer's cloud to be able to retrieve my books, and just as Harry, I bought books at many places, such as ebooks.com, BooksOnBoard, Diesel-Ebooks, Kobo, Feedbooks and Amazon. Some of those stores don't even exist anymore, but because I removed DRM and put the books into Calibre, I still have access to them. (They are also in a folder called "Originals", which contains all originals without DRM, but untouched by any edits in Calibre; not even any metadata is corrected.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripplinger View Post
I always worried about what happens if I lose an ereader or it's stolen, and anyone can then buy up hundreds of books before I realized it was gone since the reader stays logged in.
Good point. First, my reader only contains 3-10 unread books only (my current series, and one or two extra, maybe a few standalone books), and second, I normally keep it logged out.

Actually, I have to check that. Can a Kindle be registered, but NOT logged in to Amazon, or do I need to unregister it? Durned. Now I have to turn Wifi on to check, which will make the reader download books that I will have to remove afterward.

Last edited by Katsunami; 11-11-2014 at 11:16 AM.
Katsunami is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 11:52 AM   #173
BearMountainBooks
Maria Schneider
BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BearMountainBooks ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
BearMountainBooks's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,746
Karma: 26439330
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Austin, Texas
Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard
I find myself buying from multiple sources lately, but only own a Kindle. I buy where it is cheapest.
BearMountainBooks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 11:56 AM   #174
shalym
Wizard
shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.shalym ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
shalym's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,058
Karma: 54671821
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: New England
Device: PW 1, 2, 3, Voyage, Oasis 2 & 3, Fires, Aura HD, iPad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsunami View Post
I really hope so.

I've bought all of my books legally (or downloaded free ones legally), and I sideload everything. I actually have to, most of the time, as I prefer EPUB as my base format, while my primary e-reader is a Kindle. Therefore I have to remove DRM and then sideload before I can read.

Additionally, I don't want to be dependent on any manufacturer's cloud to be able to retrieve my books, and just as Harry, I bought books at many places, such as ebooks.com, BooksOnBoard, Diesel-Ebooks, Kobo, Feedbooks and Amazon. Some of those stores don't even exist anymore, but because I removed DRM and put the books into Calibre, I still have access to them. (They are also in a folder called "Originals", which contains all originals without DRM, but untouched by any edits in Calibre; not even any metadata is corrected.)



Good point. First, my reader only contains 3-10 unread books only (my current series, and one or two extra, maybe a few standalone books), and second, I normally keep it logged out.

Actually, I have to check that. Can a Kindle be registered, but NOT logged in to Amazon, or do I need to unregister it? Durned. Now I have to turn Wifi on to check, which will make the reader download books that I will have to remove afterward.
On a Kindle, you can turn on Parental Controls and block access to the store. You don't need to turn on WiFi to do this. I'm curious as to why just turning on WiFi will cause books to download to your device?

Shari
shalym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 12:24 PM   #175
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by shalym View Post
On a Kindle, you can turn on Parental Controls and block access to the store. You don't need to turn on WiFi to do this. I'm curious as to why just turning on WiFi will cause books to download to your device?

Shari
It won't, unless you have books queued for download to that device.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 12:31 PM   #176
AnneT
Groupie
AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnneT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
AnneT's Avatar
 
Posts: 152
Karma: 1034826
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgium
Device: Onyx Boox i62HD, Onyx Boox T68, Kobo Aura H2O, Boox Poke Pro
I have a Boox, and 'thus' sideload my books. I buy my books, and try to avoid buying t them from mega-stores like Amazon. And I don't want to be b bound to one seller's ecosystem.
I buy my books (if possible DRM-free or with a digital watermark), download them onto my computer, if I need to I strip DRM (to be sure I can keep reading them 'forever', on every possible device, with the reader of my choice), and organize them with Calibre.
AnneT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 03:20 PM   #177
eschwartz
Ex-Helpdesk Junkie
eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
eschwartz's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,421
Karma: 85400180
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity
Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
It won't, unless you have books queued for download to that device.
Which happens by default, when you buy books.

I manually switched my main device from the preferred e-ink default, to send them to the Kindle Cloud Reader instead.

Now books only queue to my Kindle if I specifically tell them to.

Last edited by eschwartz; 11-11-2014 at 03:28 PM.
eschwartz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 03:24 PM   #178
HarryT
eBook Enthusiast
HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.HarryT ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
HarryT's Avatar
 
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383099
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschwartz View Post
Which happens by default, when you buy books.
They go to wherever you tell them to go. When I buy books, for example, I get them sent to Kindle for PC. Nothing is ever sent to my Kindle.
HarryT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 03:32 PM   #179
eschwartz
Ex-Helpdesk Junkie
eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.eschwartz ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
eschwartz's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,421
Karma: 85400180
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity
Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryT View Post
They go to wherever you tell them to go. When I buy books, for example, I get them sent to Kindle for PC. Nothing is ever sent to my Kindle.
Well, yes, the point I was trying to make is that by default the default is/seems to be available hardware Kindles.

I did specifically mention switching the default so I would assume it was implicit that you could manually tell them to go elsewhere, being as I did say do.

I doubt many people have the patience to hit the selection dropdown every time they place an order so I thought I'd mention the idea of selecting a default device manually in MYK.
eschwartz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2014, 05:17 PM   #180
Purple Lady
Grand Sorcerer
Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Purple Lady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Purple Lady's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,698
Karma: 16542228
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pennsylvania
Device: Huawei MediaPad M5, LG V30, Boyue T80S, Nexus 7 LTE, K3 3G, Fire HD8
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschwartz View Post
Well, yes, the point I was trying to make is that by default the default is/seems to be available hardware Kindles.

I did specifically mention switching the default so I would assume it was implicit that you could manually tell them to go elsewhere, being as I did say do.

I doubt many people have the patience to hit the selection dropdown every time they place an order so I thought I'd mention the idea of selecting a default device manually in MYK.
I didn't catch the fact that you could change your default until I read this post. All the got my attention.

So thanks! I do hit the selection dropdown every time I place an order, so this will really help.
Purple Lady is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
epub check tells me "Version not found" in my content.opf NASCARaddicted ePub 4 01-26-2013 08:10 AM
Touch Quick question: Does the Nook not display sideloaded content under "new reads"? rahulm Barnes & Noble NOOK 2 07-05-2011 11:52 PM
Creator taking control of the "first page" link in the "content" menu cyberbaffled Kindle Formats 2 07-11-2010 04:21 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:18 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.