What would you like in the next Firmware Release? - Page 12

delphidb96 · 03-14-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

RTF support is asked for several times in this thread, it surprises me. Someone also mentioned Word format. Do you even know that there is free software that can easily convert from RTF or Word to PDF format, and how simple this? One click of a button and you've got what you need.

Some asked for CHM support: there are also tools available for conversion to PDF.

Converting to Word or PDF makes no real sense. Converting from RTF to Mobipocket makes far more sense.

Derek

ottocrat · 03-14-2008, 06:14 PM

Exactly, pdf is much less practical. Yes you can easily convert rtf and doc to text, but it's still going to take a while; how much more straightforward if they would do it for you in software? It's not hard; if not doc then at least rtf which is an open format. Also, a massive benefit would be the ability to take work documents with me to read on the go.

DutchBoy · 03-14-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Converting to Word or PDF makes no real sense. Converting from RTF to Mobipocket makes far more sense.

Derek

Doesn't Mobipocket support just only a single font or is it the Cybook that doesn't support that in Mobipocket format? Anyway I'd put my bets on PDF format which should be able to handle any kind of formatting. If it's the same story with PDF... then adding RTF support wouldn't be of much help either.

DaleDe · 03-15-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoy

Doesn't Mobipocket support just only a single font or is it the Cybook that doesn't support that in Mobipocket format? Anyway I'd put my bets on PDF format which should be able to handle any kind of formatting. If it's the same story with PDF... then adding RTF support wouldn't be of much help either.

MobiPocket supports more than one size font but it has to be coded in the database. The default font is supposed to be left to the user.

Dale

delphidb96 · 03-15-2008, 01:59 AM

Yes but... Mobipocket *ON* the Cybook only allows one font family at a time. It's easy enough to switch between font families 'on-the-fly', but you're not going to see that nifty serif font for general text with sans-serif for quoted text - or vice versa. If you select Georgia from the font family list, everything is going to show up in Georgia until you choose Verdana, or whatever other font you've installed.

Derek

HarryT · 03-15-2008, 04:15 AM

MobiPocket books can explicitly say "display this paragraph using 10pt Courier bold" (or whatever) but the Mobi reader on the Gen3 doesn't currently support this feature - it displays the entire book in whatever font the user has chosen. It supports "style" and size changes, but not "face" changes.

Jellby · 03-15-2008, 05:35 AM

I wonder how one would manage The Neverending Story... at least the paper editions I have use green and red text for action in the real world or in the Fantasia world.

delphidb96 · 03-15-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

I wonder how one would manage The Neverending Story... at least the paper editions I have use green and red text for action in the real world or in the Fantasia world.

Black for red and light gray for green, I'd suppose. Don't know if it would work right now, but it could be done.

*** New information ***

As far as BookDesigner is concerned, neither html or rtf versions of a sample text with different body text colors will import as anything but black text.

Mobipocket Creator DID create a mobipocket ebook with color text. And under Mobipocket Reader on my WindowsXP PC, the red and green text show up quite nicely. AND - the red text shows up as black on my Cybook while the green text shows up as light gray!

I'm attaching the sample ebook files. The Benner_A Neverending RTF was created using Book Designer and NewBookColor was created using Mobipocket Creator. Both were created using the RTF version of my sample ebook.

Derek

Puddytat purr · 03-15-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

I wonder how one would manage The Neverending Story... at least the paper editions I have use green and red text for action in the real world or in the Fantasia world.

Normal font for the real world and italics for Fantasia

ottocrat · 03-16-2008, 03:04 PM

Some more thoughts after a few days of using the Cybook...

I would really like to see user-programmable buttons. There are six buttons there on either side of the Cybook and if you don't use music then three of them are not used at all, four if you count the delete button. In the meantime, the menu system is a little clunky for adding bookmarks, changing font size, etc.

It would be so much more convenient if you could use a single button (in my case I'd like to use the music button) to bookmark a page (as you can in Palm Reader for example); or if you could configure the plus and minus buttons to be page up / page down buttons, or alternatively enlarge font / reduce font. Wouldn't that make more sense? Seems such a waste to reserve them for music volume.

DutchBoy · 03-16-2008, 09:33 PM

So... there are many good ideas here in this thread. But does Bookeen come here to read this? The OP is a regular user as far as I can see, asking what features others would like to see in updated firmware. Or do you also e mail your ideas directly to Bookeen?

My ideas for new features:

1) Page number shown on screen (page/total)
2) PDF: option to show each page over two display pages on the Cybook (each half zoomed to fit) separately, disregarding the page size that is set in the PDF file. A normal page would be shown as two half pages in landscape orientation.
3) Easy browsing, through the library, book pages, or - if provided - files and folders, ... Anything that can be large in number. There should be ways to browse many (hundreds of) items easy and fast and painlessly. Step forward by 5 or 10 pages, goto page number or letter(s) (if sorted alphabetically), etc: enter number by up/down/left/right mapping to digit up/digit down/hundreds,tens,ones.
4) Configuration of the many different preferences people might have in an editable config file. E.g. startup with library or last shown book page; button mapping; order of menu items and default highlighted menu item; etc.

Magura · 03-17-2008, 09:04 AM

It is necessarily DJVU viewer!!!

HarryT · 03-17-2008, 11:27 AM

What the heck is "DJVU"? I thought I was pretty familiar with file formats, but that's a new one on me

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mbovenka · 03-17-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What the heck is "DJVU"? I thought I was pretty familiar with file formats, but that's a new one on me

.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DjVu

I've run into them now and again, but I wouldn't call supporting it a must-have.

DaleDe · 03-17-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mbovenka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DjVu

I've run into them now and again, but I wouldn't call supporting it a must-have.

It is also in our local wiki.

Dale

03-16-2008, 09:33 PM	#176
DutchBoy Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Cybook Gen3	So... there are many good ideas here in this thread. But does Bookeen come here to read this? The OP is a regular user as far as I can see, asking what features others would like to see in updated firmware. Or do you also e mail your ideas directly to Bookeen? My ideas for new features: 1) Page number shown on screen (page/total) 2) PDF: option to show each page over two display pages on the Cybook (each half zoomed to fit) separately, disregarding the page size that is set in the PDF file. A normal page would be shown as two half pages in landscape orientation. 3) Easy browsing, through the library, book pages, or - if provided - files and folders, ... Anything that can be large in number. There should be ways to browse many (hundreds of) items easy and fast and painlessly. Step forward by 5 or 10 pages, goto page number or letter(s) (if sorted alphabetically), etc: enter number by up/down/left/right mapping to digit up/digit down/hundreds,tens,ones. 4) Configuration of the many different preferences people might have in an editable config file. E.g. startup with library or last shown book page; button mapping; order of menu items and default highlighted menu item; etc. Last edited by DutchBoy; 03-17-2008 at 11:39 AM. Reason: improved and additions

03-17-2008, 09:04 AM	#177
Magura Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: iRex iLiad v.2	DJVU It is necessarily DJVU viewer!!!

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03-14-2008, 06:14 PM	#167
ottocrat Bookish Posts: 53 Karma: 189 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brussels, Belgium Device: Psion 5, Palm Tungsten T2, Nokia N73, Cybook Gen3	Exactly, pdf is much less practical. Yes you can easily convert rtf and doc to text, but it's still going to take a while; how much more straightforward if they would do it for you in software? It's not hard; if not doc then at least rtf which is an open format. Also, a massive benefit would be the ability to take work documents with me to read on the go.

03-15-2008, 01:59 AM	#170
delphidb96 Wizard Posts: 2,999 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Citrus Heights, California Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V	Yes but... Mobipocket ON the Cybook only allows one font family at a time. It's easy enough to switch between font families 'on-the-fly', but you're not going to see that nifty serif font for general text with sans-serif for quoted text - or vice versa. If you select Georgia from the font family list, everything is going to show up in Georgia until you choose Verdana, or whatever other font you've installed. Derek

03-15-2008, 04:15 AM	#171
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	MobiPocket books can explicitly say "display this paragraph using 10pt Courier bold" (or whatever) but the Mobi reader on the Gen3 doesn't currently support this feature - it displays the entire book in whatever font the user has chosen. It supports "style" and size changes, but not "face" changes.

03-15-2008, 05:35 AM	#172
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,553 Karma: 19500001 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	I wonder how one would manage The Neverending Story... at least the paper editions I have use green and red text for action in the real world or in the Fantasia world.

03-16-2008, 03:04 PM	#175
ottocrat Bookish Posts: 53 Karma: 189 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brussels, Belgium Device: Psion 5, Palm Tungsten T2, Nokia N73, Cybook Gen3	Some more thoughts after a few days of using the Cybook... I would really like to see user-programmable buttons. There are six buttons there on either side of the Cybook and if you don't use music then three of them are not used at all, four if you count the delete button. In the meantime, the menu system is a little clunky for adding bookmarks, changing font size, etc. It would be so much more convenient if you could use a single button (in my case I'd like to use the music button) to bookmark a page (as you can in Palm Reader for example); or if you could configure the plus and minus buttons to be page up / page down buttons, or alternatively enlarge font / reduce font. Wouldn't that make more sense? Seems such a waste to reserve them for music volume.

03-17-2008, 11:27 AM	#178
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	What the heck is "DJVU"? I thought I was pretty familiar with file formats, but that's a new one on me .

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