Did you buy one of the new Kobos (or do you plan to)?

[dmapr]

Originally Posted by martinot

Ok, I see your point about being able for you to have it in your trousers (I never had my A1 in my trousers). A true pocket rocket e-reader.

What I like about the A1 more than the Forma, is the power button. Much better on the A1.

I understand that you do not need upgrading. The A1 is still today a really very excellent device.

Well, it's more about having the right pants with pockets that can accommodate an A1

If you don't mind my asking, can you describe what you don't like in the Forma's power button? I've never held a Forma in my hands.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by dmapr

Well, it's more about having the right pants with pockets that can accommodate an A1

If you don't mind my asking, can you describe what you don't like in the Forma's power button? I've never held a Forma in my hands.

Sorry if I'm jumping in to answer a question of someone else. The Forma power button has a number of issues. When it's new, it's very stiff and hard to press. That is combined with very light to no tactile feedback,, so you don't always know when it 'clicks.'. If that weren't already bad enough, even though it's small, it pivots or rocks from side to side, so if you don't press it right in the center, and keep the direction of the pressure exactly center, you will push in one side of the button only and not actually actuate the switch.

With all of that said, you would think that at least the switch never gets pressed by accident... but no, it's located where your hand goes when holding, and I have turned off my reader several times while reading. I have had far more accidental power offs with the forma than any of the infamous "Power button at bottom edge modles" like paperwhites or Clara HD

All of this probably makes it sound far worse than it is in reality. But in an otherwise very well designed product like the forma, it really sticks out as a shockingly low quality implementation.

[ianthe06]

I am still using my Kobo Aura (N514) from 2013. It is only the second reader I've had (had a Sony before) - so I can't compare to any new readers.
But I am quite happy with this one; it does its job.

[Pjama]

I’m sure I voted, My current ereaders are fine, so no. But I bought the Libra 2, couldn’t resist the better screen. Very pleased with it indeed. No regrets.

ETA: I returned it as I do not need two premium ereaders.

[Poppaea]

Originally Posted by Pjama

I’m sure I voted, My current ereaders are fine, so no. But I bought the Libra 2, couldn’t resist the better screen. Very pleased with it indeed. No regrets.

Same here! It came the day before yesterday. I was baffled how much better the screen looked.I really didn't think there was room for improvement, but there was. Now I am very happy with my purchase.

ETA Upgraded from a Libra H2O to the Libra 2.

[Pjama]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

Same here! It came the day before yesterday. I was baffled how much better the screen looked.I really didn't think there was room for improvement, but there was. Now I am very happy with my purchase.

ETA Upgraded from a Libra H2O to the Libra 2.

Me too, Libra H2O to Libra 2, am enjoying having a lovely, evenly lit screen, with well-defined, darker fonts.

ETA. Returned my Libra 2, as never felt comfortable having two premium ereaders.

[Poppaea]

Originally Posted by Pjama

Me too, Libra H2O to Libra 2, am enjoying having a lovely, evenly lit screen, with well-defined, darker fonts.

If you had asked me last week, I'd have told you my screen was clear and well lit on the Libra H2O.
I, too, am happy to have bought the Libra 2.

I really hope this one does the trick for you long term!

[martinot]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

If you had asked me last week, I'd have told you my screen was clear and well lit on the Libra H2O.
I, too, am happy to have bought the Libra 2.

I really hope this one does the trick for you long term!

In 2-3 years we will have Kobos with nw e-ink carta 1400 screens.

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by martinot

In 2-3 years we will have Kobos with nw e-ink carta 1400 screens.

There's a new screen by e-ink with something called On-Cell that eliminates the need for a touch layer and should be a meaningful upgrade. I expect Onyx Boox will be the first to have it with how quickly they refresh models.

[swimon126]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

If you had asked me last week, I'd have told you my screen was clear and well lit on the Libra H2O.
I, too, am happy to have bought the Libra 2.

I really hope this one does the trick for you long term!

What about comparing the ergonomics of the H2O and the Libra 2? I know there's probably not much difference, but just curious if you prefer one over the other.
Just for info, i'm considering getting my first Kobo (coming from the Paperwhite 4).

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by swimon126

What about comparing the ergonomics of the H2O and the Libra 2? I know there's probably not much difference, but just curious if you prefer one over the other.
Just for info, i'm considering getting my first Kobo (coming from the Paperwhite 4).

IMO the ergonomics of the Libra H2O were a bit better, but the difference was small enough not to matter to me. I sold my H2O after getting the Libra 2. The new screen is just so much nicer.

[Poppaea]

Originally Posted by swimon126

What about comparing the ergonomics of the H2O and the Libra 2? I know there's probably not much difference, but just curious if you prefer one over the other.
Just for info, i'm considering getting my first Kobo (coming from the Paperwhite 4).

Hard to say. I find the button position arkward. But I don't know if this is because I am not used to them being positioned where they are or if it is because they are in an arkward spot.

I am not big on using them anyway. I do tap for page turns and use the buttons when go through my collections or through the menue. So I don't think my experience with them is anything to go by.

What I do love about both readers is having the wider bezel to hold onto. As much as I loved the Aura One, when I got the H2O I realized my grip loosened because I had a wider bezel and didn't have to be afraid of accidentially touching the screen anymore.

Both Libras are great and even though I've been raving about the new screen the difference is not as dramatic as it was in the old days when we did step up from 212 dpi to 300 dpi. It is just when you compare them side by side. I guess if you are used to even lighting it will be worth getting the Libra 2. If you are one of the people who aren't fazed by the slight lightband, like I am, and you do get a great deal on a Libra H2O, you will love it, too. It just boils down to personal sensitivity.

And last but not least, I've been upgrading when ever there was a new reader out for over a decade now. Sometimes the new reader would have been on the market for a couple of month until I got it, but my cycle is about every two years a new reader comes home with me. I don't buy books, mine are library loans, so spending money on a reader is nothing I'd ever think about twice. And I always manage to sell my used ones for a good price, too, because they are only two years old when I sell them.

[swimon126]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

What I do love about both readers is having the wider bezel to hold onto. As much as I loved the Aura One, when I got the H2O I realized my grip loosened because I had a wider bezel and didn't have to be afraid of accidentially touching the screen anymore.

Both Libras are great and even though I've been raving about the new screen the difference is not as dramatic as it was in the old days when we did step up from 212 dpi to 300 dpi. It is just when you compare them side by side. I guess if you are used to even lighting it will be worth getting the Libra 2. If you are one of the people who aren't fazed by the slight lightband, like I am, and you do get a great deal on a Libra H2O, you will love it, too. It just boils down to personal sensitivity.

The wider bezel is actually what drew me to the Libra series since I read mostly in one hand. Comparing directly the two Libras, are they comparable in terms of ergonomics? (regardless of page turn buttons positioning). I would imagine the H2O to be somewhat more comfortable sind it's there a bit of an inward fold where you might rest your thumb (like you would with a book). But I could be wrong, thoughts?

But unfortunately, I might be one of those people who is sensitive to uneven lighting and weird color tints on the screen. I actually purchased the Clara HD long ago as my first ereader, but found the screen to have somewhat uneven lighting with strange green tint - bought the Paperwhite 4 to compare and returned the Clara as soon as I see how much better the screen on the PW4 is.

Oh boy, tough decisions :/

[martinot]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

What I do love about both readers is having the wider bezel to hold onto. As much as I loved the Aura One, when I got the H2O I realized my grip loosened because I had a wider bezel and didn't have to be afraid of accidentially touching the screen anymore.

This.

I loved the format of my Aura One (even if I hade way too many quality issues with the uneven warm backlight that I could not stand), and when I first got the Forma as a replacement I thought the form of it was very akward. But after using it for a day I directly realized how much less cramped I was holdning it while reading for longer times compared to my old Aura One.

The wide thicker wedge/bezel with the buttons on the Forma is what really makes it a great and very comfortable reader in practice (even if it physically looks more akward then the older and more "clean" looking Aura One).

I also love the page turn buttons on the Forma. Use them all the time. They have a great feel (better then the mushier Libra H20 buttons) and for me a perfect placement on the wedge. Love them!

[mezzanine]

Originally Posted by martinot

This.

I loved the format of my Aura One (even if I hade way too many quality issues with the uneven warm backlight that I could not stand), and when I first got the Forma as a replacement I thought the form of it was very akward. But after using it for a day I directly realized how much less cramped I was holdning it while reading for longer times compared to my old Aura One.

The wide thicker wedge/bezel with the buttons on the Forma is what really makes it a great and very comfortable reader in practice (even if it physically looks more akward then the older and more "clean" looking Aura One).

I also love the page turn buttons on the Forma. Use them all the time. They have a great feel (better then the mushier Libra H20 buttons) and for me a perfect placement on the wedge. Love them!

I'm surprised people found the side bezels of the Aura One too thin because I'm pretty sure the first 5mm of the touch screen is non-responsive to presses exactly to prevent accidental page turns.

Maybe it's just my Aura Ones, but both of mine require the touchscreen be pressed much further from the edge of the screen than my Clara, for example. I figured it was a design choice resulting from the flush screen.

When I first used the Aura One only a few months back, I thought the touchscreen sensitivity was crappy, but now I think it was disabled side margins that caused me to think it was inconsistent.

I believe some e-ink tablets use "palm rejection" in their firmware for people who are writing on touchscreens on the same principle.