Hacks Amazon Kindle Hack: Read DRM-protected Mobipocket content - Page 11

Nate the great · 12-18-2007, 09:02 PM

Found a copy. It should be attached to:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...678#post129678

brecklundin · 12-19-2007, 02:14 AM

ok...maybe I just am too dense. But I do not get it. The work around/hack is only going to serve to INCREASE the customer base for Kindle's. Right? And this capability should have been included in the Kindle to begin with. At least the ability to read mobi DRM'd books. Of course there could be legal issues surrounding that in spite of Amazon owning Mobipocket. Perhaps it's a licensing issue...for now.

In the mean time this makes me somewhat reconsider my not buying a Kindle on principle. There are tons of books Amazon does not offer in AZW format that I want to read so maybe I might be motivated to join in...of course there is the form-factor-gen1 issue nagging at me still. Plus I want it to have an easel-like stand that pops out of the back so I do not need to hold the thing.

But cool hack done in the grand spirit of true "hacking" as it was when I was first learning to code. Nobody is "stealing". Igor's scripts simply make it possible to use the Kindle for additional purposes. How is that harmful to ANYONE? Well, maybe to Sony and maybe Cybook...but...oh, well...let them duke it out and the zillion dollar AmeriCorps and EuroCorps squabble over their "rights" against each other. We are just consumers looking to get the most out of products we pay for and acquire within the rules provided.

Is using my Kindle as a paperweight a TOS violation?

If Amazon does coerce other book sellers to not accept Kindle PID's then there might be an issue against Amazon.

It still reminds me of all the "format" wars over various word processing formats that suddenly became an issue when MS Word could not compete feature wise with WordPerfect and Ami Pro and others...or the spreadsheet format wars for the same reason.

It is just flat silly to make one pay $400 for s device then tell me I cannot use it for whatever purpose I care to...and if Amazon tries to kill a device because of content it contains...that might be a whole new ball of wax in terms of privacy issues. Not sure is the TOS allows for a doc jelly-finger probing. Just that one cannot have unlicensed KINDLE content. If Amazon allows other forms of content then they have to allow DRM'd content in a different format as long as it was purchased legally and the Kindle PID is valid.

I am also certain there is a key stroke/combination that will open a diag mode which will also reveal the setup and ID details too. it almost has to be there for repair/diagnostic work. If so then there is no way to say it is reverse engineering to extract the PID. Think about it...for customers w/o EVDO access calling support because for some reason they get an error due to Amazon having an error in the PID they have on record, the client/consumer has to be able to extract the PID manually at their kitchen table. It is the only way to determine if the device is defective or the PID has an error. And that is certainly faster and more cost effective then have a now PO'd customer have to ship their new device back when it might be addressed in 5-minutes over the phone.

The TOS, I believe, states one agrees not reverse engineer the AZW format. B But it says nothing about converting other files INTO AZW format correct? I mean explicitly does the TOS address such a conversion? From my reading it does not. And as the PID is broadcast over EVDO does that make it sort of public? Even if it is encoded? Not sure...

We need universal DRM and let it go at that...the more formats a player supports the more devices a company will sell and the more content they will sell.

Last if Amazon insists on the only DRM'd format allowed to be direct from Amazon AZW then the device should cost $50 not $400. I still say if they made a monthly plan as they do with Audible and sell the device for even $100 they will come out much farther ahead...opps...I am waaaay off topic...sorry...

Just cool work around solution...saved for future reference as I feel Kindle will win the market.

GatorDeb · 01-02-2008, 01:56 PM

How do I run a python script? Win XP, Firefox 3 Beta 2. Thanks!

ctitanic · 01-02-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkai

As its kind of obvious what fictionwise is doing here. They are sending files for conversion, having Amazon send them back, then publishing those as there is no licensed tool to create AZW files available DRM'd or otherwise.

I'm going to assume there isn't a "no redistribution" clause in the Terms of the email conversion service. Is this outlined in the Kindle manual somewhere?

Well, that's not right. If you use Mobipocket Creator to create a PRC file and after that you rename the PRC with extension AZW you will see that your Kindle will open the file without any problem. So there is not need to send the file to Amazon to get a AZW.

wallcraft · 01-02-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorDeb

How do I run a python script?

See How to make Igor's script work.

romanocj · 01-16-2008, 10:16 PM

I have the opposite issue. I bought a Kindle and a bunch of books but switched to iLiad. is there anything that will convert .AZW files to something readable on iLiad?

DaleDe · 01-17-2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romanocj

I have the opposite issue. I bought a Kindle and a bunch of books but switched to iLiad. is there anything that will convert .AZW files to something readable on iLiad?

If they are not DRM protected then the extension can be renamed. Otherwise you would have to crack the protection which is illegal in most countries.

Dale

snookums · 01-17-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romanocj

I have the opposite issue. I bought a Kindle and a bunch of books but switched to iLiad. is there anything that will convert .AZW files to something readable on iLiad?

If you still have your Kindle, the screenshot function and a good ocr software should clear up that little problem.

romanocj · 01-18-2008, 01:39 AM

If they are not DRM protected what can i read them with?

TallMomof2 · 01-18-2008, 06:30 PM

*If* they are not DRM protected then all you need to do is rename the file from:

YourFile.azw

to:

YourFile.prc

or YourFile.mobi

If you are on a Windows machine you will see the files listed without the file extension, however Windows will tell the file type.

HarryT · 01-21-2008, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallMomof2

If you are on a Windows machine you will see the files listed without the file extension, however Windows will tell the file type.

Only if you choose to. If you select "Folder Options" in Windows Explorer, then "View", and clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" box you'll then see the extensions. That's one of the first things I change on any Windows system I use.

TallMomof2 · 01-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Guess I automatically set up Windows to tell file types, also like to see all my hidden files and folders.

mateo · 01-26-2008, 01:19 AM

OpenOffice can save to PRC. Can those be renamed to azw and they will run as well, or only files created with the Mobipocket program?

DMcCunney · 01-26-2008, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mateo

OpenOffice can save to PRC. Can those be renamed to azw and they will run as well, or only files created with the Mobipocket program?

Are you sure?

Open Office Writer 2.3 here offers a Save As to Aportis Doc format as a PDB file. Aportis Doc files are plain text files compressed to save RAM on Palm devices, and decompressed on the fly by doc viewers.

If Open Office can create Mobipocket format ebooks, it's news to me.
______
Dennis

mateo · 01-26-2008, 12:50 PM

i guess i was wrong then.

any alternatives to mobipocket creator then?

12-19-2007, 02:14 AM	#152
brecklundin Banned Posts: 1,906 Karma: 15348 Join Date: Jun 2007 Device: mine	ok...maybe I just am too dense. But I do not get it. The work around/hack is only going to serve to INCREASE the customer base for Kindle's. Right? And this capability should have been included in the Kindle to begin with. At least the ability to read mobi DRM'd books. Of course there could be legal issues surrounding that in spite of Amazon owning Mobipocket. Perhaps it's a licensing issue...for now. In the mean time this makes me somewhat reconsider my not buying a Kindle on principle. There are tons of books Amazon does not offer in AZW format that I want to read so maybe I might be motivated to join in...of course there is the form-factor-gen1 issue nagging at me still. Plus I want it to have an easel-like stand that pops out of the back so I do not need to hold the thing. But cool hack done in the grand spirit of true "hacking" as it was when I was first learning to code. Nobody is "stealing". Igor's scripts simply make it possible to use the Kindle for additional purposes. How is that harmful to ANYONE? Well, maybe to Sony and maybe Cybook...but...oh, well...let them duke it out and the zillion dollar AmeriCorps and EuroCorps squabble over their "rights" against each other. We are just consumers looking to get the most out of products we pay for and acquire within the rules provided. Is using my Kindle as a paperweight a TOS violation? If Amazon does coerce other book sellers to not accept Kindle PID's then there might be an issue against Amazon. It still reminds me of all the "format" wars over various word processing formats that suddenly became an issue when MS Word could not compete feature wise with WordPerfect and Ami Pro and others...or the spreadsheet format wars for the same reason. It is just flat silly to make one pay $400 for s device then tell me I cannot use it for whatever purpose I care to...and if Amazon tries to kill a device because of content it contains...that might be a whole new ball of wax in terms of privacy issues. Not sure is the TOS allows for a doc jelly-finger probing. Just that one cannot have unlicensed KINDLE content. If Amazon allows other forms of content then they have to allow DRM'd content in a different format as long as it was purchased legally and the Kindle PID is valid. I am also certain there is a key stroke/combination that will open a diag mode which will also reveal the setup and ID details too. it almost has to be there for repair/diagnostic work. If so then there is no way to say it is reverse engineering to extract the PID. Think about it...for customers w/o EVDO access calling support because for some reason they get an error due to Amazon having an error in the PID they have on record, the client/consumer has to be able to extract the PID manually at their kitchen table. It is the only way to determine if the device is defective or the PID has an error. And that is certainly faster and more cost effective then have a now PO'd customer have to ship their new device back when it might be addressed in 5-minutes over the phone. The TOS, I believe, states one agrees not reverse engineer the AZW format. B But it says nothing about converting other files INTO AZW format correct? I mean explicitly does the TOS address such a conversion? From my reading it does not. And as the PID is broadcast over EVDO does that make it sort of public? Even if it is encoded? Not sure... We need universal DRM and let it go at that...the more formats a player supports the more devices a company will sell and the more content they will sell. Last if Amazon insists on the only DRM'd format allowed to be direct from Amazon AZW then the device should cost $50 not $400. I still say if they made a monthly plan as they do with Audible and sell the device for even $100 they will come out much farther ahead...opps...I am waaaay off topic...sorry... Just cool work around solution...saved for future reference as I feel Kindle will win the market. Last edited by brecklundin; 12-19-2007 at 02:18 AM.

01-18-2008, 01:39 AM	#159
romanocj Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: iLiad	How Can I tell if they are DRM Protected? If they are not DRM protected what can i read them with?

01-26-2008, 01:19 AM	#163
mateo Enthusiast Posts: 45 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2005 Device: Palm Zire71	OpenOffice can save to PRC. Can those be renamed to azw and they will run as well, or only files created with the Mobipocket program? Last edited by mateo; 01-26-2008 at 01:25 AM.

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12-18-2007, 09:02 PM	#151
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Found a copy. It should be attached to: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...678#post129678

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01-16-2008, 10:16 PM	#156
romanocj Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: iLiad	I have the opposite issue. I bought a Kindle and a bunch of books but switched to iLiad. is there anything that will convert .AZW files to something readable on iLiad?

01-18-2008, 06:30 PM	#160
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	If they are not DRM protected then all you need to do is rename the file from: YourFile.azw to: YourFile.prc or YourFile.mobi If you are on a Windows machine you will see the files listed without the file extension, however Windows will tell the file type.

01-23-2008, 11:28 AM	#162
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	Guess I automatically set up Windows to tell file types, also like to see all my hidden files and folders.

01-26-2008, 12:50 PM	#165
mateo Enthusiast Posts: 45 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2005 Device: Palm Zire71	i guess i was wrong then. any alternatives to mobipocket creator then?

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