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Holy Crap!! You know, I'm on the side of freedom of speech.....being able to say what you want and not get arrested because you think the government are a bunch of morons, or so and so said this about her who said this about blah blah blah....
But c'mon people, this book advocates the harm of children in a NON-FICTION way and you want to DEFEND IT under the moniker of "oh its free speech" so that makes it okay??? Free speech or no, it's NOT OKAY!!! How about I find some phone numbers, call you up and say I'm going to rape your wife and child every day, and call every day...but not do anything...would it be okay because I'm under the guise of "free speech"? NO it wouldn't be okay! This book is nothing but a threat to society and instigation to those that are inclined to like little kids. In my opinion there are something that need to be censored for our own good. This is one of them. I don't care about the "who gets to decide" etc, it doesn't matter. It's a sad sad day when people in this country can stoop so low as to advocate the sale of such material. |
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It is just as dangerous as the Anarchist's Handbook. Not saying that it isn't.
I would find a book on the hunting of pet animals to be just as reprehensible. However - to a psychologist trying to understand how anyone could ever think this is acceptable, or how to treat a victim of this - it could be a valuable resource. Freedom of speech is the right to say or write anything. We do not possess Freedom of Action. We are not free to do whatever we want. Even more off topic: This would be an interesting argument to take against states that have verbal assault laws..... *ponders* Last edited by Mare of Earth; 11-11-2010 at 01:17 PM. |
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Again, we're dealing with one of those lines. Who is a victim? What constitutes further harming them? And who decides? By the way, if you want a good feel for the writing of the Gor novels without actually having to read one, I strongly recommend the parody "Houseplants of Gor". Or, for that matter, if you have read them. Aside from getting John Norman's literary voice dead-on (yes, he is that stilted) it's a side-splittingly funny parody. |
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Also, you may not care who gets to decide, but for a whole lot of people, that is extremely important. You clearly disagree with me, so how would you like it if I got to decide what you can and can't read? How about Mr. Ahmadinejad? He's got some pretty firm ideas on what "his" people need to be "protected" from -- for their own good, of course. Are you a follower of a religion? Then what if a devout member of an opposing religion -- or a schismatic of your own -- was making those decisions? Oh, it very, very much matters who gets to decide. You should be thankful on a daily basis that there are people it does matter to (or, of course, you could always move to Iran, and not have to worry). |
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mind you I don't think I have seen anyone advocating the sale of this book. no one is cheerleading it "go pedo book!" |
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Another similar series is Sharon Green's Warrior series. The female lead is pretty much treated that way for the first several books. The ending is romanticized, but it is very very very similar. This seems to have been an immensely popular sci-fi theme for a while. Last edited by Mare of Earth; 11-11-2010 at 01:32 PM. |
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He was an emotionally disturbed person who was paranoid of his mother discovering that he was gay. At some point, he had played D&D and had bought a couple of the books, and that ends his connection to D&D. The "Mazes & Monsters" tv movie later made was only loosely tied to his story. From that, several organizations were spawned and religious leaders took up the banner as a method of publicly excoriating people who were deemed different and unsuitable for their flock to have contact with. |
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I have an Uncle who firmly believes the King James Bible is a total perversion of the true word of God and its very existence is a threat to all of our souls. He frequently goes to every bookstore within driving distance, buys them all up, and takes them home to burn them. People in his Church donate money to the cause. My problem is not in this book. It is clearly a despicable product and thankfully our system worked as it should and Amazon received a clear message that their Customers would vote with their dollars if Amazon didn't pull the book. That is not censorship. That is a marketplace economy. It worked. Yay!!! My problem is with where this leads. Next we have people saying that books that were legally purchased should be erased by Amazon from digital libraries. Then we have people saying that sometimes censorship is good and that the only people who fear it are those doing something wrong. And at these points I will clearly put my foot down and say enough. Nobody has the right to censor what I read. Nobody has the right to censor what I legally own. Nobody has the right to declare sometimes censorship is "for my own good." I make those decisions for myself, thank you very much. At least not where I live. And if you live in a country where that is not true, I wish it were different from you. |
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