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Old 10-18-2011, 08:32 AM   #15856
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:41 AM   #15857
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I want the stuff I get to eat in Europe!
No you don't, at least no German Bread....
20 years German Bread = + 20 kilos
1 year good Spanish food= - 20 kilos.

Now, what does that tell us .... ? And I insist, the Spanish food is good !
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:08 AM   #15858
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But... Which tea if you have to have it with milk ? I cannot have my tea without milk, that is the thing I cannot change.
And to pour milk on a very good tea seems barbaric to me....
What to do.....
Any robust black tea will work. If you start with a good flavored tea, adding milk won't hurt it for you. (It would kill me... ) Start with an Assam, Keemun, or Ceylon tea from a good tea merchant and you won't go wrong. Trust me...

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Bread machines are the best kitchen appliance available to man and women ! Go get and enjoy fresh bread ..... !
While I freely admit the ease of use with the machine, and I certainly love the smell of the bread while it's baking... I simply can NOT abide by the loaves the machines turn out. I had a very nice machine a few years ago, and four or five different recipe books. I tried all the breads that I would normally purchase, and didn't care for anything coming out of the machine!

The breads had no 'crumb!' They had no crust! They were blocks of bread that smelled great, tasted sort of OK, but had no texture what so ever! Unless something has changed in the last couple of years with the machines, they are NOT something for me. I know a lot of folks love them... but a lot of folks love commercial tea bags too. LOL!

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No you don't, at least no German Bread....
20 years German Bread = + 20 kilos
1 year good Spanish food= - 20 kilos.
Now, what does that tell us .... ? And I insist, the Spanish food is good !
Every word a truism... Give me the Spanish food...

... and the German food, French, Mexican, Indian, Thai, Chinese, Creole, Fast foods, junk foods, all foods that taste good! French fries and pizza, Doner Kebabs and baklava!

At my age, I no longer care about my weight. If I put on 20 kilos because I kept my tongue happy... I'm happy! I no longer have the need to look good. Now I just want to feel good. I'll joyfully throw away my scale, throw away the mirrors, etc., etc., etc. When I die, I want to be able to say "I ate what made me happy!" As for health... Should I choose to live long or live happy? Me, I choose happy. I've already lived lives full enough for five men. If I were to die tomorrow there is no one who could say I had not lived!


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Old 10-18-2011, 09:09 AM   #15859
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No you don't, at least no German Bread....
20 years German Bread = + 20 kilos
1 year good Spanish food= - 20 kilos.

Now, what does that tell us .... ? And I insist, the Spanish food is good !
20 years German Bread = + 20 kilos
If you mean German white bread then you are right. But white is white everywhere. Be it Japan, Spain or anywhere else in world. It clogs up your system.
What about German ray bread? Ray bread is very good for your health and German one is the best of the best
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:26 AM   #15860
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I am afraid must disagree.
I have tried home made bread cooked in front of me in two households. Both families have exceptionally good cooks. In one of them, in Scotland, only the professional (his son) could be his rival.
Both hosts raved about their home made breads in these special machines.
I ate them. The bread was OK. Surely better than white bread from a supermarket. Was it great? Not even close.
The ray bread that I purchase on the local gourmet market once per week is fantastic indeed. They come to our town once per week. I adore two of their ray breads. Pumpernickel bread, 95% ray and 5% pumpernickel. The other one is 95% ray and 5% sourdough.
I also really like their Spelt bread. Eating it, heated in a bread taster with a touch of spread is like having a desert and their sourdough bread is very good too. Any of the four breads I mentioned are much much better than home made bread I have tried. However, what is very important is any of them is an infinitely better choice for your health than any bread made from wheat.
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It is called to be proactive instead of reactive. Better safe than sorry If not for security officers at entries to the majority of public places in Israel there would be a lot more maimed and dead. When the suicide bomber realises s/he is going to be searched/exposed and triggers the bomb, there are far fewer casualties in the open space than if it happened inside of a shopping mall or a cafe. The approach to the problemis not a good enough excuse to comfort the relatives of the victims when it does happen for the first time and one promises that from now one the security will be in place.
Alright, in some places we should take precaution: countries like the US, Middle East... and areas like airports, but come on! It's Vietnam! I know they say many things about our government, but they never let terrorists run loose here. Terrorism certainly is one thing you don't have to worry about when you're in Vietnam.

And it's only a library. Even if it was an Embassy, I still don't think that it is necessary for them to keep my ID card whenever I go in there. Just check it, see if I'm a criminal, get my name registered - that's okay. But I don't feel right to let anyone keep my own ID card for hours. I'm a civilized person, I don't need watching. I'm not about to set the whole place on fire, or massacre the librarians, to be honest.
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:57 AM   #15862
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Alright, in some places we should take precaution: countries like the US, Middle East... and areas like airports, but come on! It's Vietnam! I know they say many things about our government, but they never let terrorists run loose here. Terrorism certainly is one thing you don't have to worry about when you're in Vietnam.

And it's only a library. Even if it was an Embassy, I still don't think that it is necessary for them to keep my ID card whenever I go in there. Just check it, see if I'm a criminal, get my name registered - that's okay. But I don't feel right to let anyone keep my own ID card for hours. I'm a civilized person, I don't need watching. I'm not about to set the whole place on fire, or massacre the librarians, to be honest.
I see.
I guess you are right and it depends on the country. It is difficult for me to judge because I have a bit different background. I worked as a security officer. Checking cars entering a car park in big shopping mall in Israel. Opening boots, checking that the car doesn't sit too low without an apparent reason. Checking IDs if in doubt etc.
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I see.
I guess you are right and it depends on the country. It is difficult for me to judge because I have a bit different background. I worked as a security officer. Checking cars entering a car park in big shopping mall in Israel. Opening boots, checking that the car doesn't sit too low without an apparent reason. Checking IDs if in doubt etc.
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Wait a sec. What's "opening boots" supposed to mean?
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:12 AM   #15864
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Wait a sec. What's "opening boots" supposed to mean?
Prolly my bad English.
Boot of a car. British English.
Trunk in American English.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:42 AM   #15868
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While I freely admit the ease of use with the machine, and I certainly love the smell of the bread while it's baking... I simply can NOT abide by the loaves the machines turn out. I had a very nice machine a few years ago, and four or five different recipe books. I tried all the breads that I would normally purchase, and didn't care for anything coming out of the machine!

The breads had no 'crumb!' They had no crust! They were blocks of bread that smelled great, tasted sort of OK, but had no texture what so ever! Unless something has changed in the last couple of years with the machines, they are NOT something for me. I know a lot of folks love them... but a lot of folks love commercial tea bags too. LOL!

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You clearly had either a crappy bread machine or bad recipies. I have only made two loaves but they have both been as good as anything I can get at a bakery. The first was a whole wheat loaf (Whole wheat, molasses, water, and some salt). The second was a multu grain bread (millet, rye, rolled oats, polenta, bran, bulgar wheat, whole wheat, white bread flour, honey, salt, and water). The second loaf is heavenly. A wonderful crust, great texture. It is on the list of loaves to make again. We went through 3/4s of a 1 1/2 pound loaf last night.

Another problem that I have read about is that people use regular flour for making bread in bread machines. You should use flour that is marked as "bread" flour (especially for the white flour) or stone ground for your wheat flour. This adds texture and makes the bread that much better.
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Ti Kwan Yin Oolong.

Whos? From which source?
From Peet's, my usual purveyor. I have to do mail order here, and since my coffee comes from them, and they have excellent tea as well, it's an easy choice.

Meanwhile, fresh squeezed orange juice in the glass. The last of the California Valencias, the season is about over. On to navels, which are often sweeter, but rarely have as good a flavour.

Peet's Major Dickason's in the mug. Time to go to the office and start working.

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