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Old 01-07-2022, 06:10 AM   #1486
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Doesn't he just need to set up shop on a non US server? Wouldn't that resolve interference?
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Old 01-07-2022, 06:28 AM   #1487
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Reading https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/...-04-readium.md, some issues we have with DRMs seem to be solved in this LCP thing:

LCP possesses several interesting characteristics:

This DRM solution is available on every client platform (iOS, Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux, specific eInk Readers); with the open-source Readium development toolkits, EDRLab provides an open-source codebase which eases such integration. LCP does not lock the user into a proprietary environment. This is why e-lending libraries are moving to this solution, worldwide.

The DRM solution is especially useful for library e-lending, as it provides loan extensions and early return features.

This DRM solution does not hurt the accessibility of the content it protects, for people with reading impairment; this is why is it promoted by the DAISY Consortium.

This DRM solution lets users share LCP protected ebooks with friends and family; there is no predefined number of devices which can use an LCP protected ebook.

This is the only DRM solution which is based on an open standard. This means that inspecting the software for flaws is easy. The encryption profile is the only confidential information.


When we compare with the Kindle DRM (pure locker) or the Adobe DRM (no fair use, issues with accessibility), plus the large use of their solution by libraries, it's not so bad.
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Old 01-07-2022, 07:38 AM   #1488
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Doesn't he just need to set up shop on a non US server? Wouldn't that resolve interference?
At least with regards to DMCA takedowns. However, every major code versioning provider will likely have similar policies. Interestingly, the DMCA takedown wasn't issued by Adobe. I wouldn't have thought that readium would be this active.

noDRM could actually just upload a version that has the LCP parts patched out.
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Old 01-07-2022, 11:03 AM   #1489
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noDRM could actually just upload a version that has the LCP parts patched out.
I suspect that patching out will still cause hassles as people could reactivate it; that bit of code would need stripping out completely if Readium are being that aggressive about things.
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Old 01-07-2022, 05:28 PM   #1490
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Ups, I need to install Calibre on other computer and I need the plugin...

Should I use apprenticeharper deDRM or wait? On my main computer I have the NoDRM version.
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Old 01-07-2022, 05:41 PM   #1491
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Ups, I need to install Calibre on other computer and I need the plugin...

Should I use apprenticeharper deDRM or wait? On my main computer I have the NoDRM version.
You can use the apprentices' plugin.
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Old 01-08-2022, 05:22 AM   #1492
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Old 01-08-2022, 06:37 AM   #1493
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I appreciate the gratitude--I truly do. But I've actually come to regret the contributions I may have made to the project.

In my opinion, making it possible to remove DRM was always a good thing. But making it relatively trivial to do so was a mistake. I'm clearly in the minority there. So be it.
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I never said anything about making it complicated/difficult. I said "trivial". And no creation of "elites" either. I just want to limit it to people who are willing to read a bit about how to find, install, and use it. Doesn't seem overly-restrictive to me for a tool that is targeting readers of books, after all. I'm not interested in helping people that want it to announce itself, download and install itself, liberate a library's worth of books, AND remove any and all metadata that may tie books to them all in one go.

It has been my experience that triviality tends to breed complacency and a sense of entitlement that, in my opinion, will cause more harm than it will help.

But I don't expect to convince anyone I'm right.
Clearly you are right and to me this proves it. Not only easy but trivial combined with prominence presented what Readium perceives, rightly, as a serious threat to their whole business model. Further development of the tools may even ceases, or perhaps head for the dark web.

In the shorter term we can perhaps hope someone will step up and update the Apprentice Harper codebase leaving out the readium patches.

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Old 01-08-2022, 08:10 AM   #1494
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Hi there, I stumbled upon this thread while googling a solution for my situation.
Our library switched to Readium LCP and my trusted DeDRM plugin from many years ago was not ready for such a brisky 2022.
Turns out Apprentice Harper dedicated to something else and noDRM took the place of deDRM (as far as I understood).
I was VERY happy to read that v10.0.2 supported Readium LCP, just to be smacked in the face a few minutes later: I missed the github for by a mere few days.
Hence my question, is there any other source of the noDRM plugin other than the gituhub fork? If the question is not appropriate I will delete it. Any help/hint would be greatly appreciated, even in the DM.
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Old 01-08-2022, 08:22 AM   #1495
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No-one should be taking DRM off library titles, they are only borrowed.
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Old 01-08-2022, 11:17 AM   #1496
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I'm of the opinion that there are people who could conscientiously make use of DeDRMed library content. So no judgement there on my part. But it seems that promoting the ability to remove DRM (specifically the LCP variety) from library books was a bridge too far.

I don't support the current DMCA Takedown practices (guilty by accusation), but I'm honestly pretty surprised that drm removal projects have enjoyed the freedom they have for so long on code versioning system platforms.
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Old 01-08-2022, 03:14 PM   #1497
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Surely just move the host to a country that the US has no reach in
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Surely just move the host to a country that rhe US has no reach in
I don't think you understand the advantages of CVS. And what CVS systems offer all the bells and whistles of github AND allows you to pick what country you want your code hosted in?

Hosting is not the issue (though finding such that allows free, unfettered downloads that don't try to push malware on all of your users is a chore in itself). It's being able to take advantage of a cvs system so that maintaining, releasing, hosting, and incorporating code contributions doesn't have to occupy way too much of one's time.
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Did you mean VCS? It's been a long time since I've seen the phrase "advantages of CVS".
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No. I meant CVS. If Concurrent Version System is out of style, surely those familiar with the concept will still understand what I mean?
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