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Old 04-27-2010, 11:27 AM   #136
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A great article illustrating how evolutionary theory is deeply important to medical science:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/27/sc...pagewanted=all
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A great article illustrating how evolutionary theory is deeply important to medical science:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/27/sc...pagewanted=all
Thanks for that. Very interesting.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:50 PM   #138
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Article on the attack on science (amongst other subjects) by the nutbags in Texas:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...tes-us-history
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Article on the attack on science (amongst other subjects) by the nutbags in Texas:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...tes-us-history
I had mentioned the Texas School Board fiasco in a couple of other threads and received no response. What's so frightening is how the rest of the country follows the lead of Texas in the textbooks they use. Not out of choice; but because the textbook publishers pay so much attention to Texas as a market for their wares.

The United States is in serious danger. We're in a tailspin of stupid and there's not a whole lot of smart on the horizon!
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The United States is in serious danger. We're in a tailspin of stupid and there's not a whole lot of smart on the horizon!
On the bright side, in the future most American children will likely speak two languages!

Spanish and Mandarin.
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It is because all they care about are the standardized tests. When a student is now going into high school, and doesn't know what the Holocaust is or even the basic principles of science, all they know is how to fill out multiple choice questions on a test.

I was learning Latin in 3rd - 6th grade. They cut that out of the school I went to. Arts programs are being cut because they want to spend more money on test preparation.

Teachers ARE NOT teaching anymore. They are just preparing them to test.
And this is why NCLB and merit pay based on test scores are so ridiculous. Some teachers are threatened with being fired if all kids don't meet the state benchmark. What a great way to take creativity out of the classroom and take out anything that doesn't count for towards AYP (that would be anything except for reading and math). What a great way to be sure that only the kids who are "tippers" (within a certain number of points to the passing score, they could "tip" either way) and lower end kids get instruction at their level while higher level kids are bored and just sit in class because "oh, he'll pass the test, no worries!"

No child left behind is a crock. It's doing more to damage the creativity and learning that *could* be taking place in classrooms than any other reform in recent history.

Education does desperately need reform, but it is really scary the form that this reform seems to be taking in the minds of people who don't actually work with kids. I would also like to know when schools and teachers became responsible for doing the things for which parents used to be responsible. It seems to me that the public wants schools to raise kids, babysit them from morning to night, teach them morals, feed them 2-3 meals, perhaps even bathe them in some cases, get them to pass this all-important test. Oh yeah, and teach them a little something that's useful.

It's ridiculous the sentiment I hear all over the news that it's the teachers, "greedy" teachers, that are the problem, and they should all be fired. Seriously. Ridiculous.

<-- just a little frustrated with the US and "ed reform" right now
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I had mentioned the Texas School Board fiasco in a couple of other threads and received no response. What's so frightening is how the rest of the country follows the lead of Texas in the textbooks they use. Not out of choice; but because the textbook publishers pay so much attention to Texas as a market for their wares.

The United States is in serious danger. We're in a tailspin of stupid and there's not a whole lot of smart on the horizon!
are they more frightening than the Kansas board of education?
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are they more frightening than the Kansas board of education?
Only because their decisions are more far-reaching!
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Only because their decisions are more far-reaching!
true, but Kansas seems to be so much more.... ridiculous?
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true, but Kansas seems to be so much more.... ridiculous?
Read this and tell me if you think Kansas has cornered the market on stupid.
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From the article: "Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy ... believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago. ...He also wants the texts to make the case that individual cells are far too complex to have evolved by chance mutation and natural selection, an argument popular with those who believe an intelligent designer created the universe."

In that one statement, Dr. McLeroy has demonstrated his ignorance about what the Theory of Evolution actually claims. The Theory makes no assumptions about how life arose. It simply states that once it got going, evolution occurred.

The best summing up of Darwinian Evolution I've ever seen is "descent with modification." There are many people trying to solve the riddle of how life began, but it isn't part of the Theory of Evolution. Evolution is about the origins of species, not the origins of life.
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no ;o( and thus the ignorance of America grows roots
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...tes-us-history

OMG! From the article:

"We are fighting for our children's education and our nation's future," Dunbar said. "In Texas we have certain statutory obligations to promote patriotism and to promote the free enterprise system. There seems to have been a move away from a patriotic ideology. There seems to be a denial that this was a nation founded under God. We had to go back and make some corrections."




almost makes me feel like moving to TX and fighting this sorta s*iT!

(since my kids are beyond school age)
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best quotable quote I've seen in a long time on this topic!
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