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In somecountries childbirth is a leading cause of death. |
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A food basket with so much food for so little money.....to someone who needs it so badly....... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62382 |
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And assuming it is zero for you, have you no compassion for your fellow American, such as the child who is born diabetic and needs rigorous medical care as well as expensive daily insulin but whose parents neither have health insurance and nor can afford it? |
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![]() But I have health insurance because I know that I (and my family) will have multiple visits to a doctor during the year, and insurance helps manage my own costs. A health insurer has a totally different set of costs and payouts than any other type of insurance company. |
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In a sane world, we wouldn’t be discussing Palin as a potential candidate, for any sort of elected office – but we’re not living in a sane world – to quote George Carlin:
When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat. The conservative Andrew Sullivan has done a fine job of cataloging the nearly endless reasons why she should never be allowed within spitting range of the White House. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/ Her appearance on the national stage was little more than a deeply cynical attempt to salvage what was left of John McCain’s campaign. It was not long before the McCain camp realized their mistake, which is why the media was allowed limited access, and her appearances were strictly managed. She continually claims that she was treated unfairly by the media, when, in fact, it was her very own statements that precipitated her downfall. By and large, the media treated her with more respect, and afforded her a much greater benefit of the doubt than she ever deserved. In short, she’s absurd – and given that she is considered a strong candidate by a depressingly large portion of our fellow citizens, so, by extension, is our political process. Last edited by Good Old Neon; 11-18-2009 at 12:47 PM. |
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Perhaps health insurance should be more like other insurances or perhaps like and extended warranty insurance on a car. You must pay for the normal preventive maintenance... but when something unexpected breaks the insurance pays (or helps) for it. So, perhaps we should all pay for preventive care out of our pocket. Insurance will kick in for sickness or accidents. However, if you don't keep up to date with your preventive maintenance (annuals, etc) then the insurance won't cover sickness/accidents... because they are less likely to occur if you keep well on a continual basis... and if you are going for checks problems can be caught before they get too bad and are MUCH MORE expensive to fix. BOb |
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The gamble is on how soon. Health insurers are gambling that you are amongst the 80% of people who utilize 20% of the health care dollar, rather than vice versa when they make that book. Or that you will not get sick before Medicare kicks in, which actually skews the book much in their favor. |
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I think Palin is laughing all the way to the bank. My guess is that she's going, not Rogue, nor John Galt, but rather, Al Gore or maybe even Oprah. She'll ride her popularity - and she is quite and I think increasingly popular with a lot of people - to become a multimillionaire, which in America is probably the best answer there is to those who seem to be so...threatened...by a capable female who doesn't tow the liberal line. |
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This has nothing to do with being female and/or towing the liberal line, or, for that matter, the conservative line. It is about basic, core competencies – and as Palin has demonstrated time and again, she is lacking in that department. She could not handle the governorship, what makes you think she could handle presidential responsibilities? Her hastily scheduled exit interview - called on a Friday, before the start of a holiday weekend no less – was quite possibly the most surreal statement ever issued by a politician, and that alone is quite an achievement. The fear I have of her, is sort of like the fear I might experience if I were to come upon a toddler brandishing a loaded shotgun, pointed directly at my head, with finger on trigger. |
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I doubt that there are many people on this board who remember Richard Nixon's abortive attempt to control inflation back in the early 70s. He set up an elaborate price control regime - Stabilization, I think it was called. Thereafter, inflation got entirely out of control. Meanwhile, we had various shortages, the most famous of which was the oil shortage, but the most important of which was the toilet paper shortage. Everyone was stocking up... I have no doubt that there are things that could be done to make the current system a better one. But government control of economic resources results in shortages, rationing, and ultimately, corrupt political allocation. I do not know what WILL work with health care, but I damn well know what WON'T work, and that's turning over the responsibility to the government. EDIT: Today's Wall Street Journal has an article by the Dean of the Harvard Medical School http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...994054014.html that is worth reading: "In discussions with dozens of health-care leaders and economists, I find near unanimity of opinion that, whatever its shape, the final legislation that will emerge from Congress will markedly accelerate national health-care spending rather than restrain it. Likewise, nearly all agree that the legislation would do little or nothing to improve quality or change health-care's dysfunctional delivery system... "Worse, currently proposed federal legislation would undermine any potential for real innovation in insurance and the provision of care. It would do so by overregulating the health-care system in the service of special interests such as insurance companies, hospitals, professional organizations and pharmaceutical companies, rather than the patients who should be our primary concern." Last edited by Harmon; 11-18-2009 at 03:43 PM. |
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There is this thing - very strange - that I seem to be reading between the lines of the more republican/conservative/libertarian USA posters, and that is that you seem to perceive a government as primarily an oppressor - something to be avoided.
You seem to abhor governmental influence and do not trust a government. I don't understand at all.... Do you not vote for a government to act as a government - to rule the affairs of your country? It all sounds quite anarchist to me. You seem to equate government with oppression. I mean, the point of a government is to have someone handle the affairs that are to big to handle on one's own - affairs that should be shared among member of the population of one's country. That would include the things that are to the benefit of the country and nation, things that support and help people and businesses to grow and stay healthy to the benefit of everyone. Sometimes that involves things that are not universally popular, but that would be normal - you need to invest in the future, or in people that are not you, to keep everyhting running. To me it's such a me - me - me - individualism that does not take society, the nation, the people into account. I can not percieve it. I don't think I can discuss it, because I can't understand it at all, which I have tried a number of times - I'm sorry. |
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Clearly some level of government is needed. Much of the debate between conservatives and liberals in the US is centered around where that line is drawn. |
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