Silliness Fun little sig game - Page 10

montsnmags · 03-01-2009, 09:53 PM

I admit the dragon thing doesn't interest me much, and I Adblocked it to marginally speed up page-loading (sorry for reducing the pageviews, and please don't fret about this - my subjective opinion is purely an "anchovies" thing, and not any kind of judgement).

I do like your idea, and actually like with them beginning at the beginning, in a primordial "fractal" state. I see merit in your brother's comment though - eventual recognition of familiar animal (vegetable?) form would be a goal I'd like to aim at. Snails, turtles, jellyfish, stars, sea cucumbers, et cetera seem like something to allude to and still retain the "fractal" nature of their form.

Interesting.

Nate the great · 03-01-2009, 10:52 PM

I started playing this game again because I like the idea someone suggested about incest. I'm going to start lines of dragons that are all related to each other.

What can I say, I'm weird.

nekokami · 03-02-2009, 10:56 AM

No problem, Marc. I get too many views too fast for the dragons' tastes, anyway.

I see what my brother is getting at with the faces, but I think I'm aiming this game at an older audience. (Dragon Cave seems to be aimed at 12 year olds or thereabouts.) People who like to figure things out and get interesting, unpredictable results. I saw these as plant/fungus sort of organisms, that might evolve movement, rather than animals. A plant wouldn't have a face.

On the other hand, my coding skills aren't enough to manage something like this, so I'd have to get a programmer involved, which probably means finding some way to make money, like ads, which means trying to make it attractive enough to a wide audience to bring in some traffic. Which probably means trying to make the organisms "personable" or "cute." Sigh.

nekokami · 03-02-2009, 05:00 PM

Well, I'm rapidly losing interest in the game myself, but I just thought some of you might like to know that Xiao Wu Shi seems not to have held Qiu Qi Zi's fling with the valentine dragon against him, and they've just had an egg:

lilac_jive · 03-02-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

Well, I'm rapidly losing interest in the game myself, but I just thought some of you might like to know that Xiao Wu Shi seems not to have held Qiu Qi Zi's fling with the valentine dragon against him, and they've just had an egg:

Which one was the Valentine dragon?

pshrynk · 03-02-2009, 05:24 PM

Those dragons are such ho's!

nekokami · 03-02-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lilac_jive

Which one was the Valentine dragon?

See this post for that particular bit of soap opera.

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

Those dragons are such ho's!

Are not! (I don't think any of them have any money, or anything else to base a sex-worker economy on. The ones in the cave are described as having piles of gold, but mine don't seem to have any.)

montsnmags · 03-03-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

...The ones in the cave are described as having piles of gold
...

I bet that's painful, but at least it's easy to diagnose.

Cheers,
Marc (Preparation Au: stops you dragon yer arse around)

nekokami · 03-03-2009, 10:28 AM

Yeah, I suppose it would be. Then again, I've never been convinced that those geese laying golden eggs had an easy time of it, either....

I ran the fractal pictures above past my daughter (aged 14). She didn't think they necessarily needed faces, but thought it would help if at least some of them looked more recognizably plant-like. That's easy to do with fractals, of course. So maybe I'll work on some different examples.

In this project that I'm NOT working on.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-03-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

Yeah, I suppose it would be. Then again, I've never been convinced that those geese laying golden eggs had an easy time of it, either....

I ran the fractal pictures above past my daughter (aged 14). She didn't think they necessarily needed faces, but thought it would help if at least some of them looked more recognizably plant-like. That's easy to do with fractals, of course. So maybe I'll work on some different examples.

In this project that I'm NOT working on.

right, THAT project.

i could see fractal ferns or desert plants (in french we say "plantes grasses" or "fat plants" because they have thick rubbery leaves for storing water) ; some of those things look like fractals already.

edit : like these : http://images.google.com/images?rlz=...num=5&ct=title

particularly this one :

or this one :

LazyScot · 03-03-2009, 11:38 AM

I think these are called Sempervivums and Houseleeks in the UK.

If I remember, Salisbury regularly has a dragon that is made out of thousands of them, sort of like a shaped hanging basket crossed with a sculpture... Just to bring the subject back round in a circle.

nekokami · 03-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Yes, ferns and those kinds of cacti (as well as some others) are what I was thinking of for some basic plant shapes. Here's another that's fractal in nature:

Here's a cool page that overviews the basic cactus shapes:
http://cactiguide.com/habitsearch/

I see a lot of good shapes here that would be easy to generate with 3d fractals, and that could then cross to get interesting variants.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-03-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekokami

Yes, ferns and those kinds of cacti (as well as some others) are what I was thinking of for some basic plant shapes. Here's another that's fractal in nature:

Here's a cool page that overviews the basic cactus shapes:
http://cactiguide.com/habitsearch/

I see a lot of good shapes here that would be easy to generate with 3d fractals, and that could then cross to get interesting variants.

what is that, ginger root ? very fractal. i like the fractal plants idea.

Patricia · 03-03-2009, 10:01 PM

They look a bit like two-headed teddy bears: very cute.

nekokami · 03-03-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

They look a bit like two-headed teddy bears: very cute.

They do, don't they? They're actually a kind of cactus. (Dried, maybe?) The photo comes from Wikipedia.

Hm... ginger root... Yum!

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03-01-2009, 09:53 PM	#136
montsnmags Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,155 Karma: 4632658 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	I admit the dragon thing doesn't interest me much, and I Adblocked it to marginally speed up page-loading (sorry for reducing the pageviews, and please don't fret about this - my subjective opinion is purely an "anchovies" thing, and not any kind of judgement). I do like your idea, and actually like with them beginning at the beginning, in a primordial "fractal" state. I see merit in your brother's comment though - eventual recognition of familiar animal (vegetable?) form would be a goal I'd like to aim at. Snails, turtles, jellyfish, stars, sea cucumbers, et cetera seem like something to allude to and still retain the "fractal" nature of their form. Interesting.

03-01-2009, 10:52 PM	#137
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	I started playing this game again because I like the idea someone suggested about incest. I'm going to start lines of dragons that are all related to each other. What can I say, I'm weird.

03-02-2009, 10:56 AM	#138
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	No problem, Marc. I get too many views too fast for the dragons' tastes, anyway. I see what my brother is getting at with the faces, but I think I'm aiming this game at an older audience. (Dragon Cave seems to be aimed at 12 year olds or thereabouts.) People who like to figure things out and get interesting, unpredictable results. I saw these as plant/fungus sort of organisms, that might evolve movement, rather than animals. A plant wouldn't have a face. On the other hand, my coding skills aren't enough to manage something like this, so I'd have to get a programmer involved, which probably means finding some way to make money, like ads, which means trying to make it attractive enough to a wide audience to bring in some traffic. Which probably means trying to make the organisms "personable" or "cute." Sigh.

03-02-2009, 05:00 PM	#139
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Well, I'm rapidly losing interest in the game myself, but I just thought some of you might like to know that Xiao Wu Shi seems not to have held Qiu Qi Zi's fling with the valentine dragon against him, and they've just had an egg:

03-02-2009, 05:24 PM	#141
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	Those dragons are such ho's!

03-03-2009, 10:28 AM	#144
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Yeah, I suppose it would be. Then again, I've never been convinced that those geese laying golden eggs had an easy time of it, either.... I ran the fractal pictures above past my daughter (aged 14). She didn't think they necessarily needed faces, but thought it would help if at least some of them looked more recognizably plant-like. That's easy to do with fractals, of course. So maybe I'll work on some different examples. In this project that I'm NOT working on.

03-03-2009, 11:38 AM	#146
LazyScot DSil Posts: 3,201 Karma: 6895096 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hants, UK Device: Kindle, Cybook	I think these are called Sempervivums and Houseleeks in the UK. If I remember, Salisbury regularly has a dragon that is made out of thousands of them, sort of like a shaped hanging basket crossed with a sculpture... Just to bring the subject back round in a circle.

03-03-2009, 01:24 PM	#147
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Yes, ferns and those kinds of cacti (as well as some others) are what I was thinking of for some basic plant shapes. Here's another that's fractal in nature: Here's a cool page that overviews the basic cactus shapes: http://cactiguide.com/habitsearch/ I see a lot of good shapes here that would be easy to generate with 3d fractals, and that could then cross to get interesting variants.

03-03-2009, 10:01 PM	#149
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	They look a bit like two-headed teddy bears: very cute.

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