Firmware 3.19.5613 discussion

[tshering]

Originally Posted by PeterT

ePubs.

I see a problem for instance with Vingt années de Paris by André Gill, epub version with images. After selecting Kobo Tsukushi Mincho, I cannot select any other font (or rather I can select, but the selection does not get applied). As I reported yesterday I did not see the problem with some other books.

[GeoffR]

Originally Posted by PeterT

GeoffR; when I do the same on my Glo, no problem at all!

Okay, I found that a stack log was created at some point, just not at the time of the initial problem, and I am able to reproduce it consistently on an unpatched device with these steps:

Initial state: No patches, no undocumented FeatureSettings active, wi-fi off, database size 63.7MB, 799 books, 18 sideloaded fonts.

1. Power off and on again (to start with a clean slate)
2. Open a KePub book (I used this one, bought and synced from Kobo)
3. Select Kobo Tsukushi Mincho, Kobo UD Kakugo, OpenDyslexic, Malabar, Amasis
4. Tap home to close the KePub book
5. Open a DRM-free ePub book (I used Timescape by Gregory Benford, 401 pages, no embedded fonts)
6. Select Kobo Tsukushi Mincho font
7 Swipe to turn a page (at this point the book closed and was marked finished)
8. Open the ePub book again (It displays a blank page)
9. Open Aa menu, select Amasis
10. Tap home to close the ePub book

The stack log was produced after step 8 or 9 I think (it is not there after step 7, at least.) Who can I sent it to?

Spoiler:

OH THE HUMANITY!
pid: 831, tid: 831, rev: 4b76aa47bde1a96892dfaf6721f18f36179d6a2a
  >>> /usr/local/Kobo/adobehost <<<
signal 11 (SIGSEGV), code 1 (SEGV_MAPERR), fault addr 00000000
 r0 00000000  r1 3002e028  r2 00eb32c0  r3 00000100
 r4 00011000  r5 f0000400  r6 42555347  r7 b063770b
 r8 d8330400  r9 00000001  10 30ee2008  fp 00000000
 ip 3a210300  sp 7ee93964  lr 322f534f  pc 2d7f82c0  cpsr 200d0010
    #00 sp: 0x7ee93964 ip: 0x2d7f82c0  /lib/libc-2.11.1.so: memcpy+0x50
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
pid: 831, tid: 832
 r0 fffffdfe  r1 2fc22d18  r2 00000000  r3 00000000
 r4 00000000  r5 2fc22d17  r6 00000040  r7 0000008e
 r8 2c9ceb98  r9 00000001  10 2fc22d18  fp 00000006
 ip 00000000  sp 2fc22cf0  lr 2d829838  pc 2d829848  cpsr 80000010
    #00 sp: 0x2fc22cf0 ip: 0x2d829848  /lib/libc-2.11.1.so: __select+0x48
    #01 sp: 0x2fc22d00 ip: 0x2c7d2fbb  /usr/local/Trolltech/QtEmbedded-4.6.2-arm/lib/libQtCore.so.4.6.2: _ZN9QLockFile6unlockEv+0xf16
    #02 sp: 0x2fc22dc0 ip: 0x2c6b0229  /usr/local/Trolltech/QtEmbedded-4.6.2-arm/lib/libQtCore.so.4.6.2: _ZN7QThread21setTerminationEnabledEb+0x210
    #03 sp: 0x2fc22de8 ip: 0x2d655ed3  /lib/libpthread-2.11.1.so: start_thread+0xa6

Edit: To explain, I don't think opening the KePub is related to the problem, it is just an easy reproducable way of allocating some resources to simulate the state the device would be in after a bit of ordinary use.

Edit2: The stack log is not produced if I remove my sideloaded fonts, but the problem remains unchanged. I've sent the info to a Kobo representative.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by tayseidel

JSWolf, would you say that the page turns in epubs are as fast as with kepubs in the new 3.19 firmware?

I cannot say. I've never used kepub. I prefer ePub.

But I can say the page turns are fast enough that the page is turned before my eyes are at the top ready to start reading the next page.

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by tshering

I see a problem for instance with Vingt années de Paris by André Gill, epub version with images. After selecting Kobo Tsukushi Mincho, I cannot select any other font (or rather I can select, but the selection does not get applied). As I reported yesterday I did not see the problem with some other books.

Weird. I have no problems with this book and repeated changing of fonts.

Admittedly I'm on a ever so slightly earlier build; 3.19.5607

[tshering]

Originally Posted by PeterT

Weird. I have no problems with this book and repeated changing of fonts.

Admittedly I'm on a ever so slightly earlier build; 3.19.5607

I just tried the font on my Glo (FW 3.18.0) with a (large) random epub. After I selected the font and tried to turn the page, the book closed. I opened the book anew, and the screen was blank.

The font file in question is KBJ-TsukuMinPr6N-RB.ttf (154 141 28 Bytes). I mention it for the unlikely case that your font has a different file size.

[Mora]

I cant seem to get the update. It doesn't even mention there is one.

[pickyaxe]

Originally Posted by Mora

I cant seem to get the update. It doesn't even mention there is one.

Just update manually.

[Ripplinger]

Originally Posted by Mora

I cant seem to get the update. It doesn't even mention there is one.

Or the easiest way is to edit your affiliate.conf file to read:

[General]
affiliate=BestBuyCA

The file is located in the .kobo directory. After that you should be getting the newest firmware as soon as it's released. So if you have your wifi on often, you could get the update before you want it (say if there's a particular bug that bothers you in the newest firmware). If you only put wifi on when you want to update, it's not an issue.

[Nick_1964]

The problem with the Kobo Tsukushi Mincho font,and why I suggested Kobo must stop this update:
In this time,a lot of people buy ereaders for Saint Nicholas or for Christmas.
Based upon what I see around me when people have a new e-reader: put a whole lot of books on it,start to play with the fonts to see which one is nice and which one isn't..
Then select the Kobo Tsukushi Mincho font and..
Bam..

But what also concerns me is, you buy an e-reader and like the fonts, they are a part of your deal..then whitin an update Kobo can decide to take away fonts,that are there at the moment you bought it.
I do understand that most fonts have copyright and that you don't own it,but when you bought it,you got a license to use it that was paid,which Kobo can take away from you..
Is that legal ??
Take something away and just say, you got an other simular back ??

[Desdinova]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

But what also concerns me is, you buy an e-reader and like the fonts, they are a part of your deal..then whitin an update Kobo can decide to take away fonts,that are there at the moment you bought it.
I do understand that most fonts have copyright and that you don't own it,but when you bought it,you got a license to use it that was paid,which Kobo can take away from you..
Is that legal ??
Take something away and just say, you got an other simular back ??

Considering you've only 'bought' a licence, then yes.

And you'd be hard pressed to make any legal case you've lost anything of any value if fonts are changed.

But perhaps, the reason these fonts were substituted was technical? I believe they're Chinese and Japanese language fonts - so perhaps they give better results with those languages.

And fonts disappear and reappear on readers firmware all the time. The early Kobo firmwares have different fonts.

Considering that firmware revisions are only taking away the fonts that are part of the system, and not side loaded - its a non-issue

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by Desdinova

Considering you've only 'bought' a licence, then yes.

And you'd be hard pressed to make any legal case you've lost anything of any value if fonts are changed.


Considering that firmware revisions are only taking away the fonts that are part of the system, and not side loaded - its a non-issue

Don't agree, not all fonts are legally downloadable, so you suggest: Kobo takes only system fonts away, not your sideloaded so you are not affected..
You can't always download them and sideloaded them.. (it's only theoretical what I say.. a principally question..)
With the Dutch version of the Sony prs-t1 and prs-t2/3 you could take a cheaper version that has only one font.. download of the others was not possible or legal.
But they give you the choice..do you want the model with the fonts,or don't.

That it happens more times (first time that I notest in 2 years that I notice Kobo had a font removed) is not really an excuse in my opinion.
Sure I don't make a case of it,i don't own so much money,but it is more a thought.. is it legal to remove something that you had when you buyed it ?

[MGlitch]

It's almost certainly covered in the terms and agreements of the use of the ereader, likely in a simple clause of 'Rakuten Kobo can make changes to software features at any time without warning or notice'. Which would include fonts.

It can be frustrating if a font you enjoy is removed, but many fonts have free look-a-like fonts.

As to the Kobo fonts, I believe most of the early ones can be found in the sticky of fonts, which I know has been looked over for fonts which are not we aren't allowed to share.

[GERGE]

It is a little more complex than saying that. Consumer law doesn't care what terms and agreements says, at least to a particular extent.

I will give an example that is perfectly tailored to explain this. Amazon released many advertisements about their type made for digital reading, Bookerly. If they suddenly remove Bookerly from their Kindles and Fires, you can request a return. If they say no (because of limitations and such), you can simply sue. But if they remove Baskerville, well, nothing to do.

Such blanket terms aren't usually what they seem.

Still, this has nothing to do with the topic.

[jkrzok]

Does the showPageHeader=false Reading setting work anymore for anyone? It doesn't work for me anymore.

[GeoffR]

Originally Posted by jkrzok

Does the showPageHeader=false Reading setting work anymore for anyone? It doesn't work for me anymore.

Not for me either. I don't normally use it but just tried it now.