"All-New" Kindle Paperwhite with 300ppi display - June 30th - Page 10

barryem · 06-21-2015, 09:56 AM

I have a Voyage and a Paperwhite 1 and Paperwhite 2. Since I got the Voyage I've been reading almost exclusively on it and I'd been thinking about getting another one as a backup and selling my Paperwhites. And then they announced the new Paperwhite.

The day of the announcement I decided to go back to the Paperwhites and see how much better I liked the Voyage. So for a couple of days I read exclusively on my Paperwhite 2. The last couple of days I've been reading entirely on my Paperwhite 1.

I've finally decided that I really don't care which one I use. They're all great. The Voyage is greater because it's little. It feels better in my hand. But the Paperwhites feel fine in my hand and more and more I'm deciding I just don't care.

So now I'm completely confused about what I should do. Do I really want to get another reader? Three is plenty. Then there's my "latest and greatest" syndrome. But if the Voyage is the greatest, just not the latest ... !

Why did you do this to me, Amazon!

Barry

HarryT · 06-21-2015, 10:06 AM

If you don't care, the logical answer would be to keep the Voyage and sell the others.

pdurrant · 06-21-2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

If you don't care, the logical answer would be to keep the Voyage and sell the others.

No! Sell all of them and get a PW3

dordale · 06-21-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

No! Sell all of them and get a PW3

No! Keep all of them and get a PW3! That way you'll have an entire collection. That way you won't have to worry whether you kept the right one!

Josieb1 · 06-21-2015, 12:54 PM

I'd go with Harry as the longer you keep the PWs the less they are worth. Keep the Voyage and then put what you get for the two PWs to a PW3.

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rioachim

For those wondering, the New Paperwhite will be compatible with Active Content, as it is the current one (Voyage is not compatible). I have asked Customer Support.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Thank you for clarifying that.

As I recall, we had a bit of a disturbance in the Kindle Developer's Corner over the deprecation of Active Content. Some of our hacks are controlled via Active Content.

Seems like even the Voyage still has the supporting framework, as KUAL thankfully has been confirmed to run on the Voyage (does require serial jailbreak) -- my guess is they just won't sign anything as compatible with the Voyage.

joblack · 06-21-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

They haven't dropped the price. The previous poster is making the ludicrous assertion that the new PW is somehow equivalent to the Voyage.

They are almost the same. Compare the specs.

JSWolf · 06-21-2015, 04:19 PM

I've had different models of Sony Readers with page turn buttons. When I got the 650, I've used the touch screen and never looked back. I know some prefer the buttons, but the touch screen is just so much easier to use. Unless there is a physical reason, I see no reason to use the buttons which take more effort to use and limit where you can hold the Reader.

HarryT · 06-21-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I've had different models of Sony Readers with page turn buttons. When I got the 650, I've used the touch screen and never looked back. I know some prefer the buttons, but the touch screen is just so much easier to use. Unless there is a physical reason, I see no reason to use the buttons which take more effort to use and limit where you can hold the Reader.

That's because the buttons were in a stupid place on the Sony devices. The nice thing about the Voyage is that you can comfortably hold it and turn the page without having to move any part of your hand. It takes less effort than a touch screen, not more.

HarryT · 06-21-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joblack

They are almost the same. Compare the specs.

I don't need to compare the specs: I have a Voyage and a PW and I can see them side by side. The Voyage is a significantly different, and far better, reader. Significantly smaller form factor, metal case, glass (rather than plastic) screen, page turn sensors, adaptive light sensor; all better than the PW. The only difference between the PW2 and 3 is the screen, and the screen was never (for me at least) the main attraction of the Voyage.

JSWolf · 06-21-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That's because the buttons were in a stupid place on the Sony devices. The nice thing about the Voyage is that you can comfortably hold it and turn the page without having to move any part of your hand. It takes less effort than a touch screen, not more.

The buttons on the Voyage are in a stupid place. I'm not sure there isn't a stupid place for buttons. Sometimes I hold my H2O lower than where the Voyage buttons are and sometimes higher. By using the touch screen, it doesn't matter how high or low I hold the H2O, I can always turn the page in either direction. Page turn buttons limits you to where you can hold the Reader.

HarryT · 06-21-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The buttons on the Voyage are in a stupid place.

May I ask how much time you've actually spent using one to allow you to reach this conclusion?

As you'd know if you ever had actually done so, the haptic sensor is a lot larger than a physical button; you can press any point on the lower half of the bezel to turn the page.

We're not stupid Jon; it's obvious to everyone that this is just another aspect of your eternal and childish anti-Amazon whining.

JSWolf · 06-21-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

May I ask how much time you've actually spent using one to allow you to reach this conclusion?

As you'd know if you ever had actually done so, the haptic sensor is a lot larger than a physical button; you can press any point on the lower half of the bezel to turn the page.

We're not stupid Jon; it's obvious to everyone that this is just another aspect of your eternal and childish anti-Amazon whining.

I do see the PW2 outsell the Voyage and Amazon thinking that users don't want page turn buttons. If I was to recommend a Kindle to anyone, it would be the PW3. One reason is no page turn buttons as well as the lower price.

eschwartz · 06-21-2015, 06:37 PM

Amazing how thoroughly loyalty can blind a person...

Jon, the standard-issue premium Kobo unit is also outsold by the peasant devices. Because no one expects the premium device to be the biggest seller -- that is why it is the premium super-duper special one!

dordale · 06-21-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That's because the buttons were in a stupid place on the Sony devices. The nice thing about the Voyage is that you can comfortably hold it and turn the page without having to move any part of your hand. It takes less effort than a touch screen, not more.

I actually liked where the buttons were on the Sony devices. They worked well for me holding the reader with one hand with my thumb resting on the button at the bottom of the screen. On my 350 and 650 I'd use the buttons about half the time and the screen about half the time to turn pages. I haven't used a Voyage but I have a suspicion that as a result of using a PW2 and a Kobo AuraHD for the past two years, I'd very rarely use the buttons for turning pages--just too used to tapping/swiping on the screen now.

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06-21-2015, 09:56 AM	#136
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I have a Voyage and a Paperwhite 1 and Paperwhite 2. Since I got the Voyage I've been reading almost exclusively on it and I'd been thinking about getting another one as a backup and selling my Paperwhites. And then they announced the new Paperwhite. The day of the announcement I decided to go back to the Paperwhites and see how much better I liked the Voyage. So for a couple of days I read exclusively on my Paperwhite 2. The last couple of days I've been reading entirely on my Paperwhite 1. I've finally decided that I really don't care which one I use. They're all great. The Voyage is greater because it's little. It feels better in my hand. But the Paperwhites feel fine in my hand and more and more I'm deciding I just don't care. So now I'm completely confused about what I should do. Do I really want to get another reader? Three is plenty. Then there's my "latest and greatest" syndrome. But if the Voyage is the greatest, just not the latest ... ! Why did you do this to me, Amazon! Barry

06-21-2015, 10:06 AM	#137
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	If you don't care, the logical answer would be to keep the Voyage and sell the others.

06-21-2015, 12:54 PM	#140
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,086 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2	I'd go with Harry as the longer you keep the PWs the less they are worth. Keep the Voyage and then put what you get for the two PWs to a PW3.

06-21-2015, 04:19 PM	#143
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've had different models of Sony Readers with page turn buttons. When I got the 650, I've used the touch screen and never looked back. I know some prefer the buttons, but the touch screen is just so much easier to use. Unless there is a physical reason, I see no reason to use the buttons which take more effort to use and limit where you can hold the Reader.

06-21-2015, 06:37 PM	#149
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Amazing how thoroughly loyalty can blind a person... Jon, the standard-issue premium Kobo unit is also outsold by the peasant devices. Because no one expects the premium device to be the biggest seller -- that is why it is the premium super-duper special one!

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