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Speaking of LaTeX, do you have any good tutorials on it? Quote:
![]() I might have to start doing this, and then begin implementing in all future books/revisions. Quote:
Quick question, how do you guys at work deal with a book with lots of accented greek characters? I did a post a while back asking this question + a sample (all greek words marked with a "greek" CSS class): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=213688 Side Note: I am still loving this tornado we stirred up of information. Psymon has started a lot of influential ideas and raising the quality of lots of books from the discussion in this thread. ![]() |
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Well, there's The not so Short Introduction to LaTeX, but it's a bit outdated.
If you are starting any project now, I'd use the memoir class (long juicy manual), and of course UTF-8 input (no need to write "\'{\i}" when you can just write "í" ![]() By the way, this thread needs a serious cleanup and splitting into different topics ![]() |
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(No font embedding is required for Kindles, because the default fonts support all accented Greek characters.) BTW, Sigil's RegEx engine supports searching for characters by Unicode script name; therefore it's relatively easy to search for all Greek characters and wrap them in <span> tags. Find: ([\p{Greek}| ]{2,}) Replace: <span class="greek">\1</span> Because of the very simple design of the RegEx, it'll also match spaces immediately before and after Greek text and double spaces, but it's still much faster than manually marking up Greek text. ![]() |
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Omigod, I miss a few days and there's, like, a thousand messages to wade through (again).
![]() Going back to this, though, I was asking about where -- in addition to the iBooks Store -- I could also try to sell my book since it seems I managed to get it working fairly okay in ADE, too... Quote:
I just took a look at the Smashwords site (I'd never heard of them before you mentioned them), and it would seem that if you can get in there then they distribute it to iBooks, Barnes & Noble, and countless other places, too. I already managed to get my account set up with Apple, so I could do that on my own/directly, of course, but how do others go about the business of "selling"? Like, is the best way to try to go direct and set up separate individual accounts with all these different places, or is it better -- or, at least, easier -- to go through an aggregate like Smashwords and let them handle all the paperwork? I've never been much for accounting, and the last thing I need is to have to start keeping ledgers. ![]() Also, on the design side, in creating this first epub of mine my initial thought was to basically just publish on the iBooks Store -- since at first I was only able to get my design to work correctly in that platform. That's all thankfully changed now, but the way I'd created it was pretty much that it looked best when viewed in two-page landscape mode. Not that one "had" to view it that way, of course, but doing so gave it some nice things -- for example, I have a frontispiece opposite my title page. I don't know how other ereaders display books -- apart from iBooks, do others have the option for a two-page viewing mode? I guess I'm just wondering about that nicety of my frontispiece (and other "little niceties" that I incorporated), or if I should, say, scrap the frontispiece, etc. for certain platforms and be designing a whole slew of different versions of my book to sell in different places. ANY thoughts on the above would be most welcome and appreciated! ![]() |
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Re giving out a free copy of my book (once it's finished) to say "thank you" to those of you who have been so helpful here...
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I just don't know now what to do next -- I could either do that, and start my other project, or else try to get my first book out there in other ways (whether Barnes & Noble, etc. etc. etc., or else try to get together some kind of simpler MOBI version to sell on amazon). In any case, though, I'd be more than happy to do make a copy of the one up on the iBooks Store available for free download to those of you who have been so helpful here -- but for starters, anyway, that might be the only place to get it. If that doesn't work for you, all I can do is say I'm truly sorry -- at least, until I get it up (sooner or later) elsewhere. :/ Quote:
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The eBook sample I downloaded is from the latest Star Wars eBook. http://www.amazon.com/Razors-Edge-St...4184829&sr=1-4 |
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Well, firstly, I suspect that that book went through the FTP, not the KDP. (Publisher books are sent via FTP, unlike self-pubs, which go through the KDP). Secondly, here's part of what I know about this: Quote:
If a publisher can upload a book that does not go through KDP, it's entirely possible, I suppose, that the Charis doesn't get supplanted, but that's not my understanding as to what Amazon has said, either indirectly via the Guidelines or directly to me in email. My clear comprehension is that they just swap out the font, for whatever reason. Knowing you, Wolfie, I assume you ripped the book apart, and confirmed that the font you were seeing was Charis? Here's the part I don't know, because we're not publishers, so I don't have a way to do a complete test, start-to-finish: I don't know if the Charis is literally replaced or simply a different font displays. I suspect it's just that a different font displays, so even ripping something apart mayn't give us a clue. The somewhat "passive voice" statement of the Guide isn't really clear as to precisely what they mean, and I haven't gotten greater clarification in my inquiries, because quite honestly, it wasn't that important to us--it was more "confirm this font doesn't work," "check" "okay, don't use that font," and that was a while back, shortly after the K8 format came into being. Sorry--can't help more than that. Hitch |
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I did a Tweak book on the sample and yes, the font is Charis SIL. But, it's been subset. What I am woondering though is if you rename Charis SIL in a font editor, subset it and embed it, will Amazon know it's actual Charis SIL since there is really no way to easily tell. Amazon would have to program something to look at the actual letters and see if it is Charis SIL and then monkey with it from there.
I'm guessing that Amazon doesn't like Charis SIL because it is a better font then the default font they use. |
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Or there is a bug in their software they can't find or don't want to fix that blows up only on Charis.
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A number of people on MR are using my modified Charis SIL without issue. Also, if there was a problem with Charis SIL. I've seen Charis SIL Modified used on a Kindle Touch and I've never seen or even heard of a problem with it. In fact, it does look pretty good.
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Charis SIL is a nice font, but, IMHO, it's not better than the default serif font, Caecilia, which has been optimized for eInk displays. |
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You upload your Word document and puts it through their product called Meatgrinder and boy, what a fitting name. You never end up with a product you would like (especially with your wishes) and tons of errors. And, don't forget, no change of fixing those in the ePUB. Just do a quick search here on Smashwords and/or Meatgrinder... I heard that they apparently now also allow upload of ePUB, but I would not trust them with it. |
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They are mostly a company that deals with Word documents, and you have to strip/adhere to their VERY STRICTLY STYLED requirements. Recently, they have made a way to directly submit EPUBs that is in "beta": http://www.smashwords.com/swdirect I shudder to think what Smashwords would do to a document/EPUB like yours, where you are taking advantage of complex font ligatures and CSS. Best bet for your book would be to figure it out, get it working nicely in ADE, and submitting it to the stores directly. Quote:
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"different versions for different places"...... that, to me, is a huge pain. Imagine you find a typo and want to make a fix. Now instead of fixing it in one spot, you must fix the same thing in three, four, five+ EPUBs. Then you have to make sure you actually did the fix in X, Y, Z versions, and you have to make sure that you update the right version to the right store, etc. etc. It is a method that some people do... but it will cause you A LOT of overhead (and pain and suffering ![]() AT MOST, I would recommend keeping two different versions. One for iBooks (taking advantage of the complex CSS), and one for all the other EPUB devices + being fed through KindleGen. MAYBE in your special case, there might be a third EPUB, made specifically for KindleGen, where you have images of your "olde" half of the book, with fallback code to display the images in the old Kindles. Quote:
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Thanks to Toxaris, too, for your thoughts on this! I'll respond to Tex2002ans' follow-up comments here...
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![]() All this discussion here really has been a huge eye-opener for me, though -- virtually everyone I know (family and friends) who have an ereader all have iPads (and iPhones), I don't know anyone at all that has a Kindle or any other reader. Obviously I shouldn't be just designing for only my family and friends, but I really had no idea just how relatively UN-popular the iPad is. And on that note, actually, I realize that so much of this technology is still fairly new, but the inability of some of these readers to display even basic typography (let alone graphics) is so discouraging, it's like what the internet was before the World Wide Web (and graphics) were available -- if anyone else out there (besides me) is old enough to remember that ![]() It's just a matter of time, I'm sure -- and based on how VERY quickly things went in a similar regard with web design back in the 1990s, I would suspect that that's actually right around the corner. Pretty soon, I'm sure, our landfills will be filled with millions upon millions of these older, crappier readers... but that's another thought (and a very depressing one). :/ Quote:
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I don't know -- I guess all that info must be on their site (or here in these forums). I'll take a look into that... later. Quote:
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