FW 5.3.x - 5.7.x Fonts Hack - Page 10

MonJovi · 03-06-2014, 09:35 AM

When my Fonts Hack got messed up I uninstalled it using the uninstallxxx.bin but FH still appeared in KUAL and the linkfonts folder was still visible. It seems the uninstaller is not working. Can you please check it? Thanks.

I still repeated the installation process though, and FH is working fine now.

NiLuJe · 03-06-2014, 12:04 PM

@MonJovi: It's a feature, not a bug. The uninstaller doesn't touch user content by default, to avoid killing customisations. The snapshots have a KUAL button to switch the uninstaller to 'kill kill kill' mode, that removes everything.

duydangle · 03-09-2014, 01:55 PM

Just hope a way to make custom fonts display on font menu instead of having to override fonts.

NiLuJe · 03-09-2014, 02:39 PM

@duydangle: there is, it's just overly complex for my tastes, and I haven't had the time/motivation to figure out a way to make it less painful. (See a thread started by ameho for the gory details).

duydangle · 03-09-2014, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@duydangle: there is, it's just overly complex for my tastes, and I haven't had the time/motivation to figure out a way to make it less painful. (See a thread started by ameho for the gory details).

I just saw that thread, and it's complex. Thanks for your information.

Actually I like Caecilia, Futura and Helvetica, I don't want to put too much time in trying new fonts . Any ideas about bolder version of these fonts?

NiLuJe · 03-09-2014, 03:27 PM

@duydangle: I thoroughly hate Helvetica, so I can't help you there

.

I find Futura bold enough, but I'd wager finding a decent bold sans font won't be very hard. I like Futura, and I'm not a big fan of sans in general, so, again, not much help there

.

As for Caecilia, you can look at the Google Fonts Directory for other serif slabs, but I'm partial to Museo Slab, FWIW

.

duydangle · 03-10-2014, 06:15 AM

@NiLuJe Thanks for your suggestion. I just removed fonts hack and jailbreak. This time I found that think about choosing a new font is too much time wasted for me

. I will try fonts hack when I have time. Thanks for your help anyway

.

chunchunchun · 03-13-2014, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Better: Start with fc-override.tpl, tweak it appropriately (should be obvious enough, TO_OVERRIDE = Original family, TO_USE = Custom family), and save it to linkfonts/etc/conf.d/98-override-stuff.conf

I override one of the Chinese font (STKai) with my favorite font using the quoted method.
It works well on the books that I bought from Amazon, but for my personal documents uploaded via email(.mobi file) the regular type was replace by italic, and bold was replace by bolditalic.

dsmid · 03-13-2014, 03:15 AM

BTW how is the "Caecilia Condensed" font actually made ?
It does not exist as a separate font for sure, I had to make my own with FontForge when I wanted to use it in Calibre viewer on my PC.

NiLuJe · 03-13-2014, 08:42 AM

@dsmid: AFAICT, from a hardcoded special case inside their freetype implementation (which is why it's the best font to override on FW >= 5.4 if you use a custom FT, since it would look exactly like Caecilia 'classic' in that case).

@chunchunchun: Does the bold/italic/bolditalic styling look consistent in M7 (mobi) files? I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to styling with CJK fonts, so I can't really say much more. Maybe the metadata on your custom font is weird? Try with another one to check?

Or you simply might need to be a bit more devious in your FC config, like the special serif/sans cases. You'd have to check how Amazon handle the CJK fonts in their config.

chunchunchun · 03-14-2014, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@dsmid: AFAICT, from a hardcoded special case inside their freetype implementation (which is why it's the best font to override on FW >= 5.4 if you use a custom FT, since it would look exactly like Caecilia 'classic' in that case).

@chunchunchun: Does the bold/italic/bolditalic styling look consistent in M7 (mobi) files? I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to styling with CJK fonts, so I can't really say much more. Maybe the metadata on your custom font is weird? Try with another one to check?

Or you simply might need to be a bit more devious in your FC config, like the special serif/sans cases. You'd have to check how Amazon handle the CJK fonts in their config.

Thanks again, NiLuJe.
I originally put 4 fonts in fontlink/font: regular/bold/italic/bolditalic style of one font family.(4 font files)
I removed three of them, only left the regular one, now the bold appear like regular, the bolditalic appear like italic.

will study the FC config...

nypaulie · 03-14-2014, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@duydangle: I thoroughly hate Helvetica, so I can't help you there

.

I find Futura bold enough, but I'd wager finding a decent bold sans font won't be very hard. I like Futura, and I'm not a big fan of sans in general, so, again, not much help there

.

As for Caecilia, you can look at the Google Fonts Directory for other serif slabs, but I'm partial to Museo Slab, FWIW

.

I wanted a bolder sans font too and found Accidental Presidency (http://www.dafont.com/accidental-presiden.font) which is my current reading choice. Its best feature is its "slimness" - the opposite of your hated Helvetica.

NiLuJe · 03-15-2014, 10:39 AM

@nypaulie: Yup, I'm familiar with it, and while I like it for stuff like headings or UI elements (ie. what Futura is doing on the Kindle, which, incidentally, looks kiinda similar to that one, albeit slimmer and less condensed), it's really not my thing for huge swathes of text

.

I'm definitely a serif/slab-serif guy

.

user743 · 04-08-2014, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

With the usual caveats of viewing eInk screenshots on an LCD screen, here are a few useless screenshots of the KUAL menus & the aA menu, with the BCI FreeType override.

Another note: since I'm not sure how this all behaves on anything older than FW 5.3, the update package requires FW 5.3.1, so if it mysteriously disappears from your device when you try to install it, it's because you're using an older firmware

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This was developed for KUAL 2.1, so make sure you have the latest version of KUAL installed

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A good resource for free fonts is Google's Web Fonts DB: http://www.google.com/fonts/ && https://code.google.com/p/googlefontdirectory/ (Thanks to knc1 for reminding me of that

).

I'm actually reading this on a eink screen, on the kindle "experimental" browser. (yet i cant see screenshots in fullscreen, only a small blurry version.)

I'm sure I'm not the only one in this forum reading on a kindle

Barty · 04-08-2014, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@nypaulie: Yup, I'm familiar with it, and while I like it for stuff like headings or UI elements (ie. what Futura is doing on the Kindle, which, incidentally, looks kiinda similar to that one, albeit slimmer and less condensed), it's really not my thing for huge swathes of text

.

I'm definitely a serif/slab-serif guy

.

Have you tried Amasis? I love it.

03-09-2014, 03:27 PM	#141
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@duydangle: I thoroughly hate Helvetica, so I can't help you there . I find Futura bold enough, but I'd wager finding a decent bold sans font won't be very hard. I like Futura, and I'm not a big fan of sans in general, so, again, not much help there . As for Caecilia, you can look at the Google Fonts Directory for other serif slabs, but I'm partial to Museo Slab, FWIW . Last edited by NiLuJe; 03-10-2014 at 08:03 AM.

03-13-2014, 08:42 AM	#145
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@dsmid: AFAICT, from a hardcoded special case inside their freetype implementation (which is why it's the best font to override on FW >= 5.4 if you use a custom FT, since it would look exactly like Caecilia 'classic' in that case). @chunchunchun: Does the bold/italic/bolditalic styling look consistent in M7 (mobi) files? I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to styling with CJK fonts, so I can't really say much more. Maybe the metadata on your custom font is weird? Try with another one to check? Or you simply might need to be a bit more devious in your FC config, like the special serif/sans cases. You'd have to check how Amazon handle the CJK fonts in their config. Last edited by NiLuJe; 03-13-2014 at 08:44 AM.

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03-06-2014, 09:35 AM	#136
MonJovi Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 29504 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philippines Device: Paperwhite V1	When my Fonts Hack got messed up I uninstalled it using the uninstallxxx.bin but FH still appeared in KUAL and the linkfonts folder was still visible. It seems the uninstaller is not working. Can you please check it? Thanks. I still repeated the installation process though, and FH is working fine now.

03-06-2014, 12:04 PM	#137
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@MonJovi: It's a feature, not a bug. The uninstaller doesn't touch user content by default, to avoid killing customisations. The snapshots have a KUAL button to switch the uninstaller to 'kill kill kill' mode, that removes everything.

03-09-2014, 01:55 PM	#138
duydangle Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 480010 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: PW\|PW3	Just hope a way to make custom fonts display on font menu instead of having to override fonts.

03-09-2014, 02:39 PM	#139
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@duydangle: there is, it's just overly complex for my tastes, and I haven't had the time/motivation to figure out a way to make it less painful. (See a thread started by ameho for the gory details).

03-10-2014, 06:15 AM	#142
duydangle Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 480010 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: PW\|PW3	@NiLuJe Thanks for your suggestion. I just removed fonts hack and jailbreak. This time I found that think about choosing a new font is too much time wasted for me . I will try fonts hack when I have time. Thanks for your help anyway .

03-13-2014, 03:15 AM	#144
dsmid Linux devotee Posts: 598 Karma: 2069047 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle 4B, Kindle PW2	BTW how is the "Caecilia Condensed" font actually made ? It does not exist as a separate font for sure, I had to make my own with FontForge when I wanted to use it in Calibre viewer on my PC.

03-15-2014, 10:39 AM	#148
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@nypaulie: Yup, I'm familiar with it, and while I like it for stuff like headings or UI elements (ie. what Futura is doing on the Kindle, which, incidentally, looks kiinda similar to that one, albeit slimmer and less condensed), it's really not my thing for huge swathes of text . I'm definitely a serif/slab-serif guy .

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