color Software Update 1.2 released

[SCION]

I think many of us would be satisfied if the metadata transferred over from calibre (specifically tags like mystery, history, biography, etc.) would automatically place books onto shelves on the NOOKcolor. The manual thing is absurd. Eink devices do this.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by SCION

I think many of us would be satisfied if the metadata transferred over from calibre (specifically tags like mystery, history, biography, etc.) would automatically allow books to be placed onto shelves on the NOOKcolor. The manual thing is absurd. Eink devices do this.

This.

It's ridiculous to say that NC can't be compared to Calibre. My PocketBook 360 is a dinosaur compared to the NC, and it carries over my shelves and covers and metadata perfectly.

This isn't pre-school, and I'm not picking on the NC - I'm pointing out why it's not a good reader for people with 700 books. I should know.

[SCION]

Originally Posted by SCION

I think many of us would be satisfied if the metadata transferred over from calibre (specifically tags like mystery, history, biography, etc.) would automatically place books onto shelves on the NOOKcolor. The manual thing is absurd. Eink devices do this.

I should add that the eink NOOK doesn't. I mentioned this in an old thread. Hence, I should have known that the NOOKcolor would not and never will. How long has the NOOK been around? It's obvious B&N aren't going to offer library management. People talk about Apple deviating from the norm. Might as well include B&N.

Perhaps those whose only other experience with ereaders is a NOOK, don't recognize the NOOKcolor's shortcomings with regard to the reader app and library.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by SCION

I should add that the eink NOOK doesn't. I mentioned this in an old thread. Hence, I should have known that the NOOKcolor would not and never will. How long has the NOOK been around? It's obvious B&N isn't going to offer library management. People talk about Apple going against the grain.

Well, but you could be forgiven for not guessing that because they seemed to be going in that direction with the "shelves" update. The shelves were implemented extraordinarily badly, yes, but I thought (as did others) that they were going to fix it in this NC update and fix the Nook Classic at the same time.

.....we were wrong.

I still think the shelves is a great idea, but they really really really need to understand that (a) that data MUST be kept in the cloud (to sync across multiple devices) and (b) the gui has to be more usable.

I still think they're stuck in 1990.

Perhaps those whose only other experience with ereaders is a NOOK, don't recognize the devices shortcomings with regard to the reader app and library.

I'm wondering that as well. I like my Nook Classic, but after having used my PB360, I don't know that I can go back. The library management is just so crucial once you've past a certain number of books in your library.

The Nook seems best suited to buying a book from B&N, reading it, archiving it, and never keeping more than 20 books on the device. IMHO.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Well, but you could be forgiven for not guessing that because they seemed to be going in that direction with the "shelves" update. The shelves were implemented extraordinarily badly, yes, but I thought (as did others) that they were going to fix it in this NC update and fix the Nook Classic at the same time.

.....we were wrong.

I still think the shelves is a great idea, but they really really really need to understand that (a) that data MUST be kept in the cloud (to sync across multiple devices) and (b) the gui has to be more usable.

I still think they're stuck in 1990.

though not sideloaded books but your books bought through Barnes and Noble are kept in the cloud, so to speak and they do sync across multiple devices. Nook synces with nook color which can sync with your Android or iPhone app and vice versa. I use it all the time.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by boswd

Technical ereaders, note takers etc" for the vast majority of people who are general readers, the stock reader UI is wonderful.

"Wonderful" aye, maybe I can lend me your stock reader app some time, because the one that came with my nook was awful.

=X=

[boswd]

Originally Posted by =X=

"Wonderful" aye, maybe I can lend me your stock reader app some time, because the one that came with my nook was awful.

=X=

Why, what exactly made it awful in your eyes?

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by boswd

though not sideloaded books but your books bought through Barnes and Noble are kept in the cloud, so to speak and they do sync across multiple devices. Nook synces with nook color which can sync with your Android or iPhone app and vice versa. I use it all the time.

Seriously do not feel we are communicating.

Yes, your B&N books are in the cloud. Your B&N *shelf management* is NOT.

If you put a B&N book on a shelf on your Nook Classic, it will NOT be shelved similarly on your Nook Color. I have both a Nook Classic and a Nook Color. I *might* be willing to invest the time to shelve all my books on ONE device, but NOT if:

1. The work doesn't carry over to the other device.
2. The work can be lost at a single point of hardware failure.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by boswd

Why, what exactly made it awful in your eyes?

If he says "inability to load my custom fonts" are you going to respond "how many fonts does one person need" like you did with my post?

J/K.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by boswd

I look at it like this. I have a couple of Sansa mp3 players, that have nice sorting and organization options but it doesn't hold a candle to my MediaMonkey ( the digital music version of Calibre) which has every sorting, tagging, conversion etc under the sun.

I use MediaMonkey for my Sansa Clip+s too.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by boswd

Why, what exactly made it awful in your eyes?

Margins, colors, line spacing, font size and the "custom" settings go from awful to horrible.

My take is either users where going to like it or hate it and the custom settings do not help to make the app any better.

=X=

[boswd]

Originally Posted by =X=

Margins, colors, line spacing, font size and the "custom" settings go from awful to horrible.

My take is either users where going to like it or hate it and the custom settings do not help to make the app any better.

=X=

I guess everyone's entitled to their own opinon and have their own needs and wants. I just not seeing it. to be honest

but oh well that's why you can have to option to root it. I stayed with the stock UI, I do really love it. but As you know I'm going after a full feldge 10 inch Honeycomb goodness. So far the Asus Eee pad I think has nudged ahead of the Xoom

so I'll a nook classic for outdoor reading, the nook color for Primary reading and hopefully soon a Honeycomb tablet for all the rest of the fun stuff.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

I use MediaMonkey for my Sansa Clip+s too.

it's the best.

[jocampo]

You get what you pay for, of course.

I paid $250.00 plus taxes for my Nook Color (stock NC, please read well folks), but with the inability to go back and resume my PDF document from where I was, no landscape (my Kindle 3 is eink, ridiculously cheap and does landscape) and (at that time) a buggy wireless and a buggy browser, I just returned the Nook Color and later bought a Galaxy Tab. The GT is not my main ereader but works well out of the box and with same size than Nook Color, it is more powerful and weight less.

Landscape is very important for reading poetry or programming books. Without landscape mode the lines break, resulting in a poor formatting or a paragraph that is difficult or almost impossible to read. Similar complain when enlarging embeded pictures; when I bought mine, it was not possible (I do not know if was fixed or not with this release) but some tables are pictures on programming books and if you cannot enlarge those, you are losing information there, it is too small to read. Again, the Kindle 3 does that (not sure if Sony, I am assuming we can)

In my opinion, it is unacceptable that a device that is out of the box locked from Android Market and also being sold as an ereader, fails so miserable in so many aspects that are basics for most users and other products. For only 100 dollars more, you can get a Galaxy Tab wifi, just to mention one of the many alternatives. Granted, not all people can afford a $350.00 device but still is not an astronomic amount of money for what you are getting, without the need of any rooting or be always worried about next B&N firmware upgrade which is going to step on whatever you installed or rooted already.

Even the iPad, with the crappy way to sync, which is iTunes, it just works out of the box.

It is a real shame that B&N did not unlocked that device or does not want to, because with official B&N dev. support, it would be unbeatable at that price. But it is worse that after half year they just came out and released this minor upgrade.

Based on what B&N delivered after about 6 months of development it is clear that they do not want to really improve the stock tablet and operating system or they just don't know what they are doing.

I think that it us up to people if they really want to save some bucks and keep rooting this device or save some money and buy something that works out of the box.

[MsCG1]

Ha! You guys have me googling MediaMonkey now.