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If they bring out a five inch iPhone (I really hope they don't, I like being able to fit my phone in my pocket) they'll have to drop the DPI to keep the existing res. Either that or use some super über retina screen. Given the amount of apps available it's all a bit FUBAR for screen resolution upgrades. This makes me sad as I'd like a slightly higher res screen on the Mini. I don't think Apple can make the larger jump to an eight inch retina screen anytime soon. |
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02-08-2013, 10:32 PM | #137 |
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We already have phones with 440dpi, far greater than what a mini with double the resolution would have.
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Sorry, I should have narrowed that down to larger-screen devices. You know, reaching 440 ppi on a small-screen device such as a smartphone isn't quite the same achievement (although definitely admirable) as to do it on an 8-inch screen. You can also observe that trend on Retina-screen MacBooks, in that their screens don't approach the quality of the iPad (let alone iPhone) Retina screens ("only" 220/227 ppi on the MacBooks).
By the way, can you give me the exact calculation for that hypothetical new iPad mini with a Retina screen (doubling the current resolution)? I'm too inept or lazy to calculate it myself. iPad 3+ currently has 264 ppi, and the iPhone 4+ is at 326 ppi. The current iPad mini is at a paltry 163 ppi, almost as bad as the original iPad (132 ppi). If anyone can give us the exact figure for iPad mini with Retina, please do. |
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Would that simply be 163*2 = 326 ppi? What a coincidence, then: both iPad mini and iPhone 4+ would have the same ppi, despite having totally different screen aspect ratios. The iPhone 4+ looks like a little diamond now, and I can't quite imagine beholding such splendor on a larger 8-inch screen. It should knock the current "big" iPad's socks off.
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I must be the only one who can't see that much of a difference with the retina. My phone has it and I just don't notice the difference. I have an iPad 2 I got just when the iPad 3 came out, and I regret it. The mini is much smaller and lighter. I only use the full-size one for work now, and while that means it does get use, it was very expensive. And now that Apple has released so many more so quickly, its resale value is negligible. Had I known then what I know now, I would have kept my iPad 1 for work and then just waited for the mini.
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My apologies to anyone I might have offended with the phrase consumer's ocular chew toy. Under normal circs, I might have tempered the language so as not to imply that anyone who happened to like the current Mini was a mere consumer.
I was too amused to remember that because I couldn't stop picturing the following image: people leaning over their seven-inch tablets as their eye membranes parted to reveal pointy iron teeth, which would then begin chewing on said tablets' Retina screens. You might call that an i for an eye. Last edited by Prestidigitweeze; 02-11-2013 at 09:50 AM. |
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I assure you I can distinguish a Retina from a non-Retina screen from 3 feet off. All a matter of what your eyes are used to, and learn to expect. Mine being used to Retina both on the tablet and the phone, so there's no going back.
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The Nexus 10 has 299dpi, it's not a far cry from what a mini with retina would have. Last edited by afv011; 02-09-2013 at 12:24 PM. |
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"Retina" is pretty much a marketing label, and I don't expect marketing labels to be scientifically precise. The point is that -- as Jakob Nielsen wrote in one of his Alertbox columns -- judging by 2013 standards, any computer screen below 200 ppi can nowadays be considered "lousy" (Nielsen's term), and us consumers should insist on computer manufacturers offering us 200+ ppi screens (at the very least that) as the new standard.
I'm sure that 326 ppi over 8 inches of an iPad mini screen, will be spectacular to behold -- whether technically "Retina" or not. |
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This has just occurred to me...
What's the best way to demonstrate the difference between a Retina-screen iPad and a non-Retina-screen iPad? Open an iPhone-only app on the iPad, and press the "2x" button. The difference will be so brutal it will make your eyes pop up. On a non-Retina-screen iPad, such an iPhone app will be grainy like hell. It will literally hurt your eyes to look at it. But on a Retina-screen iPad, the same iPhone app will show no graininess. (Though it still won't be optimised for the larger screen, of course, so its use on an iPad can't be recommended.) |
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Faterson, is that right?!
That's incredible--and if true, I would truly consider getting an iPad 3/4 even now. Do you have a web page, tech journal article, link with photos that shows this? There are several older apps, or older versions of apps, or apps only came out for the iPhone, that I'd like to use regularly on the iPad, but that are grainy on the original iPad. |
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