MobileRead Administration: New years reading categories - Page 10

Sparrow · 09-24-2009, 08:16 AM

Excellent!

PilotBob!

JSWolf · 09-24-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

OK,

So here is the "final proposal"...

January
Science Fiction (rivets/science)
February
Romance
March
Nonfiction
April
Humor
May
Classic
June
Thriller/Suspense
July
Fantasy (trees/magic)
August
Free For All (any genre)
September
Mystery/Crime
October
Horror
November
Classic
December
Wild Card (no nominations, a vote of all the non-winning nominations from the last 11 months)

So, all the months are full.

I think we aren't going to agree 100% with everyone... but I think this seems to be the best compromise and includes all the genre's that most people have suggested.

BOb

I disagree with his list. it doesn't have months that are for MR books only and months that go outside MR. My list does that.

January 2010
Science Fiction/Fantasy (from MR)
February 2010
Mystery/Thriller
March 2010
Nonfiction
April 2010
Humor
May 2010
Classic
June 2010
Romance (from MR)
July 2010
Autobiography/Biography
August 2010
Any book not at MR
September 2010
Mystery/Thriller
October 2010
Horror
November 2010
Science Fiction/Fantasy (not from MR)
December 2010
Any book uploaded to MR

And when is it that Fantasy is all about trees? And when is SF all about rivets? Besides, two months of classic are one month too many. Also, crime is too broad a topic to be used.

lilac_jive · 09-24-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I disagree with his list. it doesn't have months that are for MR books only and months that go outside MR. My list does that.

January 2010
Science Fiction/Fantasy (from MR)
February 2010
Mystery/Thriller
March 2010
Nonfiction
April 2010
Humor
May 2010
Classic
June 2010
Romance (from MR)
July 2010
Autobiography/Biography
August 2010
Any book not at MR
September 2010
Mystery/Thriller
October 2010
Horror
November 2010
Science Fiction/Fantasy (not from MR)
December 2010
Any book uploaded to MR

And when is it that Fantasy is all about trees? And when is SF all about rivets? Besides, two months of classic are one month too many. Also, crime is too broad a topic to be used.

Jon, frankly, you pretty much disagree with everything unless it's exactly how you want it. Not everyone is going to want to have it exactly how you want it.

daffy4u · 09-24-2009, 11:38 AM

I vote BOb!

pilotbob · 09-24-2009, 11:48 AM

OK, next order of business.... the schedule of when the Nomination, Vote and discussion threads should be started.

Basically what I have been doing is:

Nomination thread, second to last week for 7 days prior to the month the nominations are for.

Vote/Poll, after the nom thread for 7 days (the poll may end in the month being voted on if the final week of the prev month isn't a full week.)

Discussion thread, the first day of the last (full) week of the same month.

There have been some suggestions to do the nominations more ahead of time, or make the thread last longer.

Also, there have been some people looking for the discussion thread because they finished the book the first week of the month, or even before that.

Also, there has been a suggestion that the person that originally nominated the book sort of lead the discussion with some question. My concern with this was that would discourage people from nominating books.

What perhaps we could do is come up with a template for the discussion thread that could fit with every book like:

What did you think of the main character?, What was your favorite part of the book?, What part didn't you like? etc. People could use it sort of like a form letter when the post their inital thoughts of the book.

Discuss... (should I start a new thread for this?)

BOb

lilac_jive · 09-24-2009, 12:04 PM

I don't really have any opinions on times of nomination, etc. I'm usually so absent-minded I just forget when they are, so it's always a suprise

Sparrow · 09-24-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Also, there has been a suggestion that the person that originally nominated the book sort of lead the discussion with some question. My concern with this was that would discourage people from nominating books.

What perhaps we could do is come up with a template for the discussion thread that could fit with every book like:

What did you think of the main character?, What was your favorite part of the book?, What part didn't you like? etc. People could use it sort of like a form letter when the post their inital thoughts of the book.

Discuss... (should I start a new thread for this?)

BOb

I would be disincentivised by the prospect of leading the debate - on a worldwide forum I'm not sure it would be easy to be online long enough to do it.

But maybe the nomination could have a few pointers for potential discussion in addition to the synopsis - a bit of background about why the nomination was put forward.

I like the idea of the form letter though, I think that'd encourage more participation after the read.

Andanzas · 09-24-2009, 02:29 PM

I am a little bit surprised that no one here seems to care about children's books.

Elfwreck · 09-24-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andanzas

I am a little bit surprised that no one here seems to care about children's books.

I considered suggesting YA as a category, and decided there's probably not enough appeal, especially since young adult books are often very short, not suitable for a month-long book club consideration.

However, nothing prevents anyone from suggesting a children's book in its appropriate genre--The Little Prince as science fiction or classics; Peter Pan as fantasy or classics; Little Brother potentially as thriller, and so on. Very few YA books are released as ebooks; there's not a lot to choose from, and many that are available, aren't good on portable readers; they suffer from the lack of color or image quality.

dreams · 09-24-2009, 03:05 PM

I also considered YA as a category, but didn't for the same reasons already mentioned.

MR author / member Stan Morris (morriss003) wrote YA novels: Surviving the Fog (free on MR) and Tales of the Ragoon, Sam's Winnings (at Smashwords).

His works would qualify as YA, MR author/member uploaded book on MR, MR author/member book not uploaded on MR, and sci-fi (IMO). So his work could be nominated in other categories.

daffy4u · 09-24-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andanzas

I am a little bit surprised that no one here seems to care about children's books.

That can be covered in the Free for All month.

JSWolf · 09-24-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andanzas

I am a little bit surprised that no one here seems to care about children's books.

Maybe because we are not children?

Sparrow · 09-24-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Maybe because we are not children?

But most of us were probably children when we fell in love with reading - the books we read then are often still treasured.

Don't you have any books you remember with fondness from your days as a nipper?

pilotbob · 09-24-2009, 04:25 PM

I think Young Adult or children's books or whatever also fall into the traditional genre's. For example, Harry Potter would be Fantasy. Ender's Game would be SF.

BOb

AnemicOak · 09-24-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I think Young Adult or children's books or whatever also fall into the traditional genre's. For example, Harry Potter would be Fantasy. Ender's Game would be SF.

BOb

Agreed

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09-24-2009, 08:16 AM	#136
Sparrow Wizard Posts: 4,395 Karma: 1358132 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: Palm TX, CyBook Gen3	Excellent! PilotBob!

09-24-2009, 11:38 AM	#139
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	I vote BOb!

09-24-2009, 11:48 AM	#140
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	OK, next order of business.... the schedule of when the Nomination, Vote and discussion threads should be started. Basically what I have been doing is: Nomination thread, second to last week for 7 days prior to the month the nominations are for. Vote/Poll, after the nom thread for 7 days (the poll may end in the month being voted on if the final week of the prev month isn't a full week.) Discussion thread, the first day of the last (full) week of the same month. There have been some suggestions to do the nominations more ahead of time, or make the thread last longer. Also, there have been some people looking for the discussion thread because they finished the book the first week of the month, or even before that. Also, there has been a suggestion that the person that originally nominated the book sort of lead the discussion with some question. My concern with this was that would discourage people from nominating books. What perhaps we could do is come up with a template for the discussion thread that could fit with every book like: What did you think of the main character?, What was your favorite part of the book?, What part didn't you like? etc. People could use it sort of like a form letter when the post their inital thoughts of the book. Discuss... (should I start a new thread for this?) BOb

09-24-2009, 12:04 PM	#141
lilac_jive Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,870 Karma: 27376 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Device: PRS-505	I don't really have any opinions on times of nomination, etc. I'm usually so absent-minded I just forget when they are, so it's always a suprise

09-24-2009, 02:29 PM	#143
Andanzas Out of print Posts: 484 Karma: 1549538 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Sony PRS-500 (recycled), Pocketbook Inkpad X Pro	I am a little bit surprised that no one here seems to care about children's books.

09-24-2009, 03:05 PM	#145
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,112 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	I also considered YA as a category, but didn't for the same reasons already mentioned. MR author / member Stan Morris (morriss003) wrote YA novels: Surviving the Fog (free on MR) and Tales of the Ragoon, Sam's Winnings (at Smashwords). His works would qualify as YA, MR author/member uploaded book on MR, MR author/member book not uploaded on MR, and sci-fi (IMO). So his work could be nominated in other categories.

09-24-2009, 04:25 PM	#149
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	I think Young Adult or children's books or whatever also fall into the traditional genre's. For example, Harry Potter would be Fantasy. Ender's Game would be SF. BOb

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