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Old 12-17-2021, 01:42 PM   #1
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Epub vs kepub
I've read that converting epubs to kepubs results in a little snappier performance on kobo readers. I'm currently using a Kobo Sage, always read epub format books and wondered if this was true and if there are any advantages to converting my books to kepub format.

Is it worth it to use Calibre to convert to kepub format?
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Old 12-17-2021, 02:21 PM   #2
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I've read that converting epubs to kepubs results in a little snappier performance on kobo readers. I'm currently using a Kobo Sage, always read epub format books and wondered if this was true and if there are any advantages to converting my books to kepub format.

Is it worth it to use Calibre to convert to kepub format?
KePub allows better stats. Images can be zoomed. KePub supports popup footnotes.

ePub supports better typesetting with kerning, ligatures, hyphenation, and variable spacing between words. KePub can be made to do some of these things, but it's not done as well.

So I would say go with ePub for eBooks that do not have images you'll want to zoom and that do not have footnotes.
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Old 12-17-2021, 05:06 PM   #3
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Kepubs are definitely faster.

That said, don't convert your books. Use the KoboTouch Extended Driver to send your books to your Kobo as kepubs. This way the books in the library will still be epubs and no additional space is needed for kepubs.

I use kepubs on the Sage and epubs on the Libra 2.
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Old 12-17-2021, 05:29 PM   #4
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Kepub is better alround.

And the sideload is a little extra step via calibre.
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Kepub is better alround.

And the sideload is a little extra step via calibre.
Sorry, but KePub is not better all around. If you are reading an ePub that does not require any of the features that are better with KePub such as footnotes or image zoom, then ePub has better typesetting for a better reading experience.

ePub & KePub each have things that are better then the other. Neither is better then the other.
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Old 12-17-2021, 06:28 PM   #6
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In the past, it was much easier to select footnotes with kepubs; I don't know if it still is.
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I've read that converting epubs to kepubs results in a little snappier performance on kobo readers. I'm currently using a Kobo Sage, always read epub format books and wondered if this was true and if there are any advantages to converting my books to kepub format.

Is it worth it to use Calibre to convert to kepub format?
my advice is to try both and decide which (you) prefer.

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Old 12-17-2021, 07:01 PM   #8
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Is it worth it to use Calibre to convert to kepub format?
I don't like that KePubs call each screen a "page number" — so the length of your book "changes" each time you change the font size. But many seem to prefer this so I guess it's personal taste.
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I don't like that KePubs call each screen a "page number" — so the length of your book "changes" each time you change the font size. But many seem to prefer this so I guess it's personal taste.
I prefer kepub precisely for this reason, and that you can follow page numbers more logically throughout the book, rather than having 6 page 2s for example.

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I prefer kepub precisely for this reason, and that you can follow page numbers more logically throughout the book, rather than having 6 page 2s for example.

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Old 12-17-2021, 09:23 PM   #11
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I prefer kepub precisely for this reason, and that you can follow page numbers more logically throughout the book, rather than having 6 page 2s for example.
I used to read 100% kepubs before starting to use KOReader and switching to all epubs, but this is still the way I like my "page" numbers to show. I actually call them "clicks" now, and a recent experience of reading an ebook that had "real" page numbers was distracting for the very reason you cite - I'd get to "page" X and find I was STILL on it several clicks later.
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I started to chime in on the page numbering but remembered we already had a long thread about why people love or hate each kind of page numbering so I didn't want to drag this thread down that rabbit hole.

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Sorry, but KePub is not better all around. If you are reading an ePub that does not require any of the features that are better with KePub such as footnotes or image zoom, then ePub has better typesetting for a better reading experience.



ePub & KePub each have things that are better then the other. Neither is better then the other.
Just my personal opinion. For sure, each one will test for himself and chose.

I don't see the typesetting differences to be honest.
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Use the KoboTouch Extended Driver to send your books to your Kobo as kepubs.
This is news to me. I was browsing here this morning because I noticed that all my kepubs show up with the series name and number before the name on the device, and I was going to take the time this morning to actually learn how to configure the kepub converter.
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This is news to me. I was browsing here this morning because I noticed that all my kepubs show up with the series name and number before the name on the device, and I was going to take the time this morning to actually learn how to configure the kepub converter.
This seems like you have an active metadata pkugboard. Look in Preferences -> Metadata plugboards, to see if you have one set up.
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