Progress bar with chapter markers?

nosmokingbandit · 05-03-2020, 09:07 PM

I finally upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard to the latest Basic. I can't seem to figure out how to get the progress bar back on the bottom of the page. I'm hoping I'm just dumb and can't figure it out because missing this feature would be really disappointing.

This is the bar I'm talking about:
https://sgwproductimages.azureedge.n...171716pdis.jpg

Additionally, is there a way to force Mobis to accept custom fonts? I've grown attached to Literata and since my Keyboard was jailbroken I could use that font everywhere. A jailbreak doesn't exist (afaik) for 5.12 so I'm stuck relying on Amazon's seemingly limited implementation.

NiLuJe · 05-03-2020, 09:54 PM

The bar's gone. It never made the trip to FW 5.x, even as far back as the original Touch.

IIRC, custom fonts are a no-go for legacy M7 mobi, but should behave more or less properly (barring implementation quirks, which apparently may be many) for KF8 or KFX on supported FW (>= 5.11.something, IIRC, should definitely work on FW 5.12. There's a text file explaining how it works on the device, possibly in a fonts related folder).

Quoth · 05-04-2020, 08:14 AM

Embedded fonts are more reliable than user added separate fonts. You do need KF8, they seem to work on all Kindles that have a "Publisher" option on Aa, without any patch. Kindle Keyboard 3.4.something to PW 5.12.etc. Dual mobi or AZW files. You have to select the option in Aa. Only Mobi files that are really dual mobi (KF8) will allow extra fonts.

93terp · 05-04-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nosmokingbandit

I finally upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard to the latest Basic. I can't seem to figure out how to get the progress bar back on the bottom of the page. I'm hoping I'm just dumb and can't figure it out because missing this feature would be really disappointing.

If I could have one feature from the Kindle "good old days" it would be the progress/chapter marker bar.

JSWolf · 05-04-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

Embedded fonts are more reliable than user added separate fonts. You do need KF8, they seem to work on all Kindles that have a "Publisher" option on Aa, without any patch. Kindle Keyboard 3.4.something to PW 5.12.etc. Dual mobi or AZW files. You have to select the option in Aa. Only Mobi files that are really dual mobi (KF8) will allow extra fonts.

I have to disagree with embedded fonts being more reliable. On a Kindle, it's all or none. So you cannot embed font(s) not used for the body font and be able to use your choice of body font. That I find is a real problem.

Take a look at the book The Wind and the Willow made/posted by GrannyGrump. It uses some embedded fonts. You lose with Publisher Font on or off. If on, you get an ugly serif font and it off, you don't get the things that are supposed to be there.

So if you do use embedded fonts on a Kindle, you have to embed for everything. That doesn't work. In fact, it's very poor.

Richwood · 05-05-2020, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 93terp

If I could have one feature from the Kindle "good old days" it would be the progress/chapter marker bar.

AGREED 100%. Much better than the current progress options. Looks like the last Kindle reader with that was the NT, so generation 4/5. If on any later units then a firmware update eliminated it.

tomsem · 05-05-2020, 01:59 PM

It went away on the touch screen Kindles. The chapter markers were tied with a way to navigate by chapter using the keyboard - not sure if that was possible with the 'non touch basic' Kindle but I think it was with the 4-way once reading options were visible.

One way to restore the feature for touch screen Kindles would be to add an improved indicator to Page View. It could show chapter markers on that progress bar, as well as showing percentage. There's plenty of room.

Atunah · 05-05-2020, 09:03 PM

As many kindles as I have had since, I still mourn the progress bar. It was just the best and most comfortable visual guide of a book for me. With little dots for chapters. It was just perfect. I still miss it terribly.

I still have the keyboard and the black button basic. But I need the light now to read. Once in a while I sit outside in bright light and read on one of the older ones and seeing the progress bar is a delight then.

I have send them feedback to their kindle feedback a few times about it. I don't expect to ever see it again.

05-03-2020, 09:07 PM	#1
nosmokingbandit Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2015 Device: Kindle 3G B006	Progress bar with chapter markers? I finally upgraded from my Kindle Keyboard to the latest Basic. I can't seem to figure out how to get the progress bar back on the bottom of the page. I'm hoping I'm just dumb and can't figure it out because missing this feature would be really disappointing. This is the bar I'm talking about: https://sgwproductimages.azureedge.n...171716pdis.jpg Additionally, is there a way to force Mobis to accept custom fonts? I've grown attached to Literata and since my Keyboard was jailbroken I could use that font everywhere. A jailbreak doesn't exist (afaik) for 5.12 so I'm stuck relying on Amazon's seemingly limited implementation.

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05-03-2020, 09:54 PM	#2
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	The bar's gone. It never made the trip to FW 5.x, even as far back as the original Touch. IIRC, custom fonts are a no-go for legacy M7 mobi, but should behave more or less properly (barring implementation quirks, which apparently may be many) for KF8 or KFX on supported FW (>= 5.11.something, IIRC, should definitely work on FW 5.12. There's a text file explaining how it works on the device, possibly in a fonts related folder).

05-04-2020, 08:14 AM	#3
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,030 Karma: 105092227 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	Embedded fonts are more reliable than user added separate fonts. You do need KF8, they seem to work on all Kindles that have a "Publisher" option on Aa, without any patch. Kindle Keyboard 3.4.something to PW 5.12.etc. Dual mobi or AZW files. You have to select the option in Aa. Only Mobi files that are really dual mobi (KF8) will allow extra fonts.

05-05-2020, 01:59 PM	#7
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,939 Karma: 27060151 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	It went away on the touch screen Kindles. The chapter markers were tied with a way to navigate by chapter using the keyboard - not sure if that was possible with the 'non touch basic' Kindle but I think it was with the 4-way once reading options were visible. One way to restore the feature for touch screen Kindles would be to add an improved indicator to Page View. It could show chapter markers on that progress bar, as well as showing percentage. There's plenty of room.

05-05-2020, 09:03 PM	#8
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	As many kindles as I have had since, I still mourn the progress bar. It was just the best and most comfortable visual guide of a book for me. With little dots for chapters. It was just perfect. I still miss it terribly. I still have the keyboard and the black button basic. But I need the light now to read. Once in a while I sit outside in bright light and read on one of the older ones and seeing the progress bar is a delight then. I have send them feedback to their kindle feedback a few times about it. I don't expect to ever see it again.

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