The Vent and Rant Thread

[DiapDealer]

Comet and a scouring pad takes it right off for me.

Spoiler:

Of course Comet also contains powdered bleach.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Comet and a scouring pad takes it right off for me.

Spoiler:

Of course Comet also contains powdered bleach.

Bartender's Friend, for me.

Hitch

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Bartender's Friend, for me.

Hitch

That's good stuff too. I just can't always find it in podunk.

[cc_in_oh]

Bleach may be needed to remove some stains but for disinfecting I'd stick with white vinegar or H2O2.

[trichobezoar]

Thank y'all for the advice. I'll try taking out the rest of the stains after this inspection tomorrow. 'Have to get back to cleaning...

[AnotherCat]

Originally Posted by CRussel

There's an easy way to remove that stain -- good old fashioned household (chlorine) bleach (javex)...

That is what we have also used too. Works perfectly with no effort at all, and I doubt there is anything cheaper.

I suspect the the oxy type cleaners - those the ones usually (maybe always) containing sodium percarbonate as the active ingredient - would work just as well but obviously more expensive.

[AnotherCat]

Originally Posted by cc_in_oh

Bleach may be needed to remove some stains but for disinfecting I'd stick with white vinegar or H2O2.

I have had a lot of experience associated with sterilizing potable water tanks and other surfaces in kitchens and bathrooms on yachts. It is of particular concern on yachts as they can be required to be totally self dependent in case of sickness when at sea (I know of skippers, including myself, who will not even refrigerate left over foods not used on the same day of type such as meats as a barrier against illness- it is all dumped on the day of preparation). One can be confident that bleach (sodium hypochlorite) will kill anything likely to be of concern in kitchens and that is why it is so widely used for that purpose.

There are a few things that may resist bleach but they are all very unlikely to be found in households, let alone on cups and mugs, or cutting boards, etc. The only things I am aware of that are resistant are for surface cleaning situations some molds and their spores are resistant if they are well established on a non porous surface, and for water borne situations some protozoa found in unfiltered polluted water such as giardia.

Giardia or any of the other protozoa will not be found in developed country kitchen situations (giardia, being the likely most common, is also not found in tropical polluted water, as it is a temperate climate inhabitant) and molds are unlikely to exist in the extensive amounts for airborne spores to be a danger.

Against these things vinegar is also not reliable as it will not kill all molds and its performance against bleach resistant water borne protozoa I could not comment on, but would be an inconvenient sterilizer unlikely to be useful (filtration is the usual method).

[CRussel]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

That's good stuff too. I just can't always find it in podunk.

Amazon.com.

[AnotherCat]

The active stain removing ingredient in Bar Keepers Friend is just cheap old oxalic acid. One can buy a lifetime's supply of oxalic acid crystals on the internet for the price of one container of Bar Keepers Friend (which is an expensive cleaning product).

If scouring wanted as well, then there are dozens of cheap products in the supermarket to do that bit.

Again, oxalic acid is widely used in the yachting industry for removing stains on all sorts of things, including on stainless steel, waterline stains on fiberglass/paint, rust stains on sails, etc. as it is otherwise non-aggressive. If one needs it to stick while it works make a paste of it with wallpaper paste, for example.

I wouldn't rely on it for sterilization, it is mild (although poisonous to humans if enough taken), and am unaware of it being used so.

Wow, I'm going into the cleaning products business, I didn't realize there were so many people willing to throw their money away on cleaning names (there again I have seen the TV advertisements aimed at them ).

[trichobezoar]

Originally Posted by AnotherCat

Wow, I'm going into the cleaning products business, I didn't realize there were so many people willing to throw their money away on cleaning names (there again I have seen the TV advertisements aimed at them ).

I'm thankful for all the advice. At least I know there are options. Knowledge is much better than ignorance in all areas of life.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by AnotherCat

The active stain removing ingredient in Bar Keepers Friend is just cheap old oxalic acid. One can buy a lifetime's supply of oxalic acid crystals on the internet for the price of one container of Bar Keepers Friend (which is an expensive cleaning product).

If scouring wanted as well, then there are dozens of cheap products in the supermarket to do that bit.

Again, oxalic acid is widely used in the yachting industry for removing stains on all sorts of things, including on stainless steel, waterline stains on fiberglass/paint, rust stains on sails, etc. as it is otherwise non-aggressive. If one needs it to stick while it works make a paste of it with wallpaper paste, for example.

I wouldn't rely on it for sterilization, it is mild (although poisonous to humans if enough taken), and am unaware of it being used so.

Wow, I'm going into the cleaning products business, I didn't realize there were so many people willing to throw their money away on cleaning names (there again I have seen the TV advertisements aimed at them ).

Well, lazy old slut that I am, using crap out of a can that I can just grab and go beats having to go mix up wallpaper paste, ya know?

(sigh).

Hitch

[AnotherCat]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Well, lazy old slut that I am, using crap out of a can that I can just grab and go beats having to go mix up wallpaper paste, ya know?

(sigh).

Hitch

I'm sorry that you felt attacked and so replied without thought and making sounds as if you needed to have a sleep.

Normally one would just spray the oxalic solution lightly on and leave it for a while and wipe off. For difficult surfaces such as undersides of ss benches etc. or vertical or overhanging surfaces where staining is bad and longer term contact is desired one would thicken it. That is just an expansion of what I posted before.

But for you, I'll just leave it at that else "discussion" will go on forever.

[trichobezoar]

Yes, let's drop it please. Since this was originally about getting stains out of a mug/cup.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Pretty sure Expresso is a brand of the capsule thingamabobs, I've see them in shops here - for some reason I'm thinking Switzerland/Russia. I mainly drink flat whites from local roast and grind coffee shops. IMO most US coffee is… <censored>.

BR

Australia has many achievements of which to be proud but having literally driven Starmucks (infamous peddler of a beverage which is, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, "almost, but not quite, entirely unlike coffee") into a shamefaced retreat from its shores is probably the one that I celebrate the most.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by AnotherCat

I'm sorry that you felt attacked and so replied without thought and making sounds as if you needed to have a sleep.

Normally one would just spray the oxalic solution lightly on and leave it for a while and wipe off. For difficult surfaces such as undersides of ss benches etc. or vertical or overhanging surfaces where staining is bad and longer term contact is desired one would thicken it. That is just an expansion of what I posted before.

But for you, I'll just leave it at that else "discussion" will go on forever.

Oh, for GOD's sake. Let's see, you lecture all of us about how buying overpriced products gives you a gateway to making a fortune in infomercials, and then you lecture ME about reacting to it?

Nice.

Hitch