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Old 12-15-2019, 06:45 PM   #1
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calibre 4.6 hyphens in editor, viewer, and PDFs

I have questions about hyphens in editor, viewer, and PDFs. Apparently you can add hyphens with Polish Books which creates a second epub and renames old original. The new epub auto-hyphens by width of column in the editor and file viewer of the editor. Hyphenatable words are underlined. The new viewer also now hyphenates on the fiy. Hyphenatable words do not have &SHY showing in them. When converting to PDF there is a setting to hyphenate the output but this is a separate process entirely and the epub does not first have to go through the Polish Books. Have I got this right? Best regards, Pop
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Old 12-16-2019, 04:17 AM   #2
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The viewer does not hyphenate on the fly, you have to add hyphens if you want hyphenation in the viewer. Hyphenated words have a soft hyphen (hte unicode character, not &shy inserted in them. And yes the PDF output does not require books to be pre-hyphenated.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:06 AM   #3
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Thank you for that explanation, Mr. Goyal. I wondered about the underlined words. I right-arrowed through one such word letter by letter and, indeed, there it was — a soft hyphen. A great many printed books are hypenated, it seems, so, for PDF print-outs, this would be a nice touch. Is there any overhead or drawbacks to using this feature for ebooks? Is there a time lag for loading? 4.6 is incredibly good! Best regards, Pop
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:10 AM   #4
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The drawback is mostly that searching tends to not work and as you discovered words are incorrectly marked as mis-spelled in the editor. There are no serious performance implications, however. I do plan to fix both spelling and searching with hyphenated words in the future.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:23 AM   #5
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One additional small thing I just noticed: if you have hyphenated a file and you edit that file by adding a long word with many syllables, that one word will not (of its own accord) now automatically hyphenate.
Another topic: If you delete the 'old file' then 'unhyphenate' the new file, is that a safe thing to do? Or, would it be better to keep the 'old file' then unhyphenate? I am intrigued by this concept, but am worried about destruction of text. Best regards, Pop
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:24 AM   #6
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You can safely add and remove hyphens, will not affect the text. But is generally a good practice to keep backups. And no hyphenation is not applied automatically ever, you should make it the last step in your book editing.
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Is this form of hyphenation different from what the Hyphenate This! plugin does or is the plugin now unnecessary?
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Old 01-01-2020, 10:58 PM   #8
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Its the same thing, it inserts soft hyphens in text.
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Its the same thing, it inserts soft hyphens in text.
Thanks Kovid!

The Hyphenate This! plugin requires the addition of a hyphenation dictionary for the language being hyphenated. Is the addition of a hyphenation dictionary unnecessary with this Calibre feature or do I need to dig deeper? (the language I am interested in is english)

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yeah calibre comes with all the hyphenation dictionaries from libreoffice pre-installed. And Happy New Year to you too!
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yeah calibre comes with all the hyphenation dictionaries from libreoffice pre-installed. And Happy New Year to you too!
Excellent!!!
Do you anticipate in the future adding this as an option in the conversion process or will it remain a separate step in Polish Books?

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No plans to add it in conversion.
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