12-01-2012, 11:09 AM | #31 |
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I think xendula is on to something here. The ability to gift an eBook to a library that would give them the right to lend it out once. Some sort of global depository that libraries could access and individuals could donate to. Preferably with some sort of preference system for lenders from countries that need the books the most. For once UN might actually be useful. Anyone has a friend or family member that works for UNICEF?
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How's classical doing? I can listen on Spotify to most Broadway shows for free, or hear them live on Broadway for a hundred dollars a seat. Or more. Popular music concert prices have also skyrocketed. I don't think many book authors have the option of raising their live performance prices to compensate for cheap eBooks. Quote:
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As a librarian, I think you should be all for DRM. It's central to the only library eBook system that's working at all, Overdrive. I don't mean to imply having all the answers. I don't think anyone has a full solution for the related problems of keeping libraries strong and of allowing less affluent folks to get eBooks for free while more affluent people pay for them. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 12-01-2012 at 05:25 PM. |
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Artificial scarcity absolutely makes sense when you are talking about free products. No artificial scarcity means that everyone can download every book from a library and keep it forever. Obviously that is not sustainable for authors or publishers. Nor are most forms of "buy once, lend infinitely" sustainable...at least when the "buy once" price is similar to the regular consumer price. I also generally think that the amount of money authors or publishers make "per read" should be roughly equivalent for digital and non-digital books. And I think if they're not, the authors or publishers just won't participate in library lending. And I don't really think they will suffer by not doing so. |
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Because it utterly fails to address the inherent change in the medium. "We've always done it that way, let's keep doing it", even though it's really not the same thing anymore. There is no need to have "copies" of ebooks, restricting the possible numbers in concurrent circulation. This has purely financial reasons, trying to keep an outdated business model alive, and nothing that couldn't be addressed via some sort of agreement.
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12-03-2012, 08:19 AM | #37 |
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^ Penguin for a while only let libraries lend their older ebook titles, but not the newer ones. Now they found a way to seemingly work with public libraries through a different system than Overdrive, but what that really means is, as a patron, I have to log into their new crappy system, which is slow as a slug, to see if there are any books I am interested in, which effectively kills my desire to even try. They hardly have any books as of yet, and do not work with eink readers. They found a way to offer their books and make sure nobody borrows them.
I hate Penguin and try to never purchase any books from them. I literally check who publishes an ebook before I buy it, in order to make sure it's notPpenguin. But sorry, there is a different thread for that. Last edited by xendula; 12-03-2012 at 08:22 AM. |
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In Scandinavia they can lend out an unlimited amount of copies, libraries pay a price per borrowed copy, in Sweden it amounts to €2 a copy.
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12-03-2012, 06:49 PM | #41 |
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Tompe, I am just wondering what libraries that run out of funding do. Do you know?
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I fail to see the harm if people, who can afford it, buy the eBooks, while the rest of us wait a bit. To me, financing the production of these books through voluntary payments from the affluent, while I have to wait a bit or accept a slightly non-preferred form factor, is ideal from a social-democratic standpoint. Quote:
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I've seen this claim a few times, but I don't believe it. However, it is hard to refute without mentioning web sites I don't want to publicize. Pick a medium sized country of your choice. Search for the five best-reviewed English language books on social or political problems in that country, written in the last ten years. I'm going to be surprised if you find more than one of them on the darknet. So I think this horse hasn't quite left the barn yet. Also, most people who read that kind of book are not thieves. It's one thing (if I am wrong about what is really on the darknet) for the book to be freely available, without any waiting or borrowing time limit, illegally. It would be a much worse blow to sales if the book was available, without any borrowing or time limit, through a user-friendly public library site. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 12-03-2012 at 10:12 PM. |
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Usually the unrestricted lending s not a problem except for certain exceptional books. And the books can be handles in different way then the mass of books. |
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