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09-27-2012, 02:49 PM | #78 | |
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09-27-2012, 02:50 PM | #79 |
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It's possible to lease or license a book without buying it, too. By Giggle's logic, if you lease a car, you're not repsonsible for ever taking it back.
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And that doesn't change the simple fact that if you agree to a contract that you have no intention of living up to, you're a liar and fraud. |
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09-27-2012, 04:33 PM | #82 |
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In fact, as far as I know, only Amazon has terms that specifically allow them to remove stuff from your reader after you've already downloaded it. There's a reason they've included that, namely, they demonstrated the ability to do so by doing so a few years back, and if they have the ability, they are required to do so under certain circumstances, so the terms need to address it.
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Let them try to remove the content from my Nook.
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There's obviously some ability to do so - you remove stuff you bought through B&N by archiving it on their web site, after all - but it works a little differently, and it's not all that clear to me that actually removes it from the device.
The important thing, though, is that with Amazon, it's covered explicitly in the terms, and legally, I expect that will matter if it ever gets reviewed by a court. To be a "sale of goods," generaly, there needs to a single payment for an indefinite term of use. The first, a Kindle book has, the second, that particular term says no, you don't have. |
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I purchase a book, and I am able to do whatever I wish to with that book, regardless of Amazon's views on the matter. If I pay for content/ideas then those ideas are now under my possession. I did not create those ideas (no one can create) but they are my ideas. Amazon did not create those ideas either, Amazon is a temporary holder of ideas/content, nothing more than a technological device to enable the distribution of content. Amazon has no valid or legal argument that can stop anyone from reselling any content that they obtain through Amazon. I am not advocating piracy. |
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There's your error. With Amazon, you don't purchase it, you license it. |
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The licensing of idea transmission, taken to its logical conclusion, a pay per read scheme is an extremely bad idea. If Amazon's TOS is immoral, which it is, we can simply ignore their TOS and purchase and resell the content we obtain through them, just as we have been doing with content for the last 5000 or so years.
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09-27-2012, 07:56 PM | #90 |
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I haven't kept up with changes (there are other reasons I don't buy ebooks from Amazon, starting with the fact that I don't much like their devices). The news coverage at the time quoted the new verbiage. There was a lawsuit over the fact that they had said, publicly, more than once, that once you buy something, it's yours, and that they did not have the ability to remove stuff remotely. Then they removed stuff remotely. Perhaps the newer devices don't have the ability, and they no longer feel that the terms need to include that.
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