12-12-2007, 06:28 PM | #16 |
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Great news...and quick too! I don't see any legal issues either so this is a perfect release...
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12-12-2007, 06:30 PM | #17 |
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Well they can't claim that it was an impossible technical hurdle to allow their customer's the choice of purchasing from other online book stores. Great work.
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12-12-2007, 06:44 PM | #18 |
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Sorry to be Mr. SpoilSport here...
...but this is a violation of your Kindle's TOS/Usage Terms. Might want to read them
Further, it is perfectly (ahem) legit for Amazon to invalidate everything on the device if used this way, should they choose to do so. The More You Know™...It's One to Grow On!™ -K |
12-12-2007, 06:46 PM | #19 |
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Yes, it is. But since I never agreed to the TOS, it doesn't matter.
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12-12-2007, 06:55 PM | #21 | |
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The thing about things like that, Nate...
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12-12-2007, 06:57 PM | #22 | |
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Not if you buy them from another bookseller...
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12-12-2007, 07:04 PM | #23 | |
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12-12-2007, 07:05 PM | #24 |
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12-12-2007, 07:12 PM | #26 |
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But are the TOS legal, and does Amazon want to go to court to find out? Legal or not, it would be public relations nightmare for Amazon to go after its early adopter customers for this. Far better would be to do what they should have done in the first place - open up the Kindle to DRMed MOBI files. After all, Amazon owns MobiPocket (so they make money either way: MOBI or AZW).
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12-12-2007, 07:18 PM | #27 | |
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What "makes sense" and "is right" and "is legal"...
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It can be argued (and by some here, pretty much, has been) it is immoral and inethical to buy books from some other bookseller and use on the Kindle, because you are in effect robbing Amazon of potential revenue as the Kindle is designed to only read DRM'd books from the Amazon Kindle Store It could also be posited that, like AutoDesk and the Autocad "stealers" it would in fact be in Amazon's best interest to nip this in the bud to protect their reseller business by making "examples" out of these interlopers by k-lining their Kindle and severing the relationship. Sticky, sticky, sticky |
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12-12-2007, 08:18 PM | #28 | |
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12-12-2007, 08:51 PM | #29 | |
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I'm on your side here :)
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You see, by making a copy of this book from one format to another, you have violated copyright...as stupid as that is, because the rights holder hasn't given you permission to do this. Further, you don't get to define the terms of your Amazon Kindle usage...Amazon does. This is a very real example of the perils of a system that decides that because you might give away what you paid for, what you can do with what you licensed (you didn't buy anything, really according to the terms of your...purchase) you are already on the grey side, strolling dark. if Amazon sells a copy of the book you already bought from somewhere else, and you make a copy of said book to view on the Kindle...you are a violator. Is the original still around in the original format? Hrm. Now you have "two books" but you only bought one. See? If Amazon sells the book in question you are supposed to buy it from them. If they do not and it is encrypted, you do NOT have the "right" to use it on the Kindle...even tho you "own" both of these things And according to some of the publishers and authors that frequent here, this is *perfectly sane and fair to them* because you could in theory give one of those copies to someone else somehow instead of having bought a copy for them, and you, because you can copy the kindlized one to the kindle to read, and read the other copy in mobipocket. Yay Team! Last edited by mrkai; 12-12-2007 at 08:56 PM. |
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12-12-2007, 09:23 PM | #30 | |
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Because in this case...
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Amazon can decide that this usage of the Kindle is a violation and decide that you no longer get to read these books or any you "bought" from them on your Kindle anymore. But I guess if people are fine with this sort of thing...rock on |
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