|  01-22-2020, 02:46 PM | #1 | |
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				Finding the perfect paragraph indentation size
			 
			
			After having to add paragraph indentation to a self-published e-book version of a web serial that had neither space between paragraphs nor first-line indentation (and learning way more about CSS and e-book publishing than I ever thought I would want to know), I realized that I don't know what indentation size I prefer. The truth of it is that you can get used to almost anything (except for a complete lack of paragraph differentiation!), particularly in light of past Kindle Store purchases—they're all wildly all over the place. Full line spacing is probably ideal for web, but on an e-reader, it's an unnecessary waste of space; moreover, most physical books use first-line indentation. What is the ideal size? Butterick's Practical Typography suggests that Quote: 
 What do you use when creating or customizing e-books? | |
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|  01-22-2020, 03:10 PM | #2 | 
| Passionate Reader            Posts: 276 Karma: 1829152 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Central Jersey, USA Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, Kobo Clara HD, Fire HD 8, Voyage, Oasis 3, PW5 | 
			
			The first thing I do after buying a book is to import it into Calibre (de-DRMing it at the same time) and take a look at the CSS. My favorite paragraph indent value is 1.2 em. As you said, 1 em seems slightly too small and 1.5 slightly too big. For me (and Goldilocks), 1.2 is just right.
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|  01-22-2020, 03:17 PM | #3 | 
| Enthusiast  Posts: 41 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Oasis 3 | 
			
			Doesn't an indentation defined in em change depending on the font size you choose, though? Have you ever considered using %?
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|  01-22-2020, 03:53 PM | #4 | |
| Running with scissors            Posts: 1,592 Karma: 14328510 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: none | Quote: 
 I don't know what the spec says so I did some experimenting and an indent using percentage seems to be based on the line width. If someone with poor eyesight increases the point size of the text, they'd get a small indentation relative to the text size when percentage is used. Personally I think the amount of indentation is yet another preference thing, like sans serif versus serif fonts, ragged-right versus justified, etc. I prefer an indentation of 2em. | |
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|  01-22-2020, 03:58 PM | #5 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | 
			
			1em for me. Always. Never bigger.
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|  01-22-2020, 04:02 PM | #6 | 
| 350 Hoarder            Posts: 3,587 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2 | 
			
			I'm a 1.2'er as well.
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|  01-22-2020, 04:06 PM | #7 | 
| Guru            Posts: 761 Karma: 7025686 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Elipsa, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Inkpad Color | 
			
			1.5 em for me, not more,  I can accept 1.2, not less.
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|  01-22-2020, 04:13 PM | #8 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | 
			
			I use .3in (not .3em). It works for me. I look at the formatting of every book in Calibre before I send it to my Kobo. But I only mess with formatting if indent is too small/large/doesn't exist, text isn't justified or if there is space between paragraphs. | 
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|  01-22-2020, 04:46 PM | #9 | 
| Unicycle Daredevil            Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3 | 
			
			1.2em all the way.
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|  01-22-2020, 05:01 PM | #10 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | Quote: 
 I prefer 1.2em. Simon & Schuster also uses 1.2em for their Star Trek eBooks. It seems that most who have replied prefer 1.2em for an indent. | |
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|  01-22-2020, 05:35 PM | #11 | 
| Bibliophagist            Posts: 48,088 Karma: 174315300 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos | 
			
			I use 4%. A pox on all those dEMon worshipping em users.
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|  01-22-2020, 09:18 PM | #12 | 
| Readaholic            Posts: 5,306 Karma: 90981752 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8" | 
			
			It doesn't matter to me. When I read I don't see indentations or anything else. Apache | 
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|  01-23-2020, 01:21 AM | #13 | 
| Well trained by Cats            Posts: 31,249 Karma: 61360164 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A | 
			
			1.5 or 2em MM <2em | 
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|  01-23-2020, 01:31 AM | #14 | |
| Running with scissors            Posts: 1,592 Karma: 14328510 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: none | Quote: 
  But seriously I'm like that as well even though I always reformat my books to meet my standards; indented paragraphs, no extra white space between them, ragged right, and all font-family stuff deleted. Then one time I had been reading a book for at least an hour or more and then I noticed that the right margin was straight (justified) and there was extra white space between the paragraphs. So much for my fussy standards. | |
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|  01-23-2020, 06:37 AM | #15 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | Quote: 
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