Calibre default CSS to <body>

heitormsilva · 11-23-2017, 08:32 PM

Converting from EPUB to AZW3 Calibre is generating the following CSS to the <body>

Code:

.calibre {
    margin-bottom: 0;
    margin-top: 0;
    padding-left: 0;
    padding-right: 0
    }

The resources/template/html.css is blank and the value of "Convert settings -> Page setup -> margins" are set to less than 0.

What else could I do to prevent this to happen?

kovidgoyal · 11-23-2017, 09:26 PM

Nothing, body margins are always set to zero so they dont interfere with page margins. You dont want body margins in an ebook, they make no sense.

heitormsilva · 11-23-2017, 10:56 PM

Please, don't get me wrong, but I just can't get used with a piece of software imposing its patterns. It sounds a kind of dictatorship. I just think that the choice should be let to user.

kovidgoyal · 11-23-2017, 11:55 PM

Every software in existence imposes choices on the user. The very act oc creating software means imposing choices on the user.

doubleshuffle · 11-24-2017, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Nothing, body margins are always set to zero so they dont interfere with page margins. You dont want body margins in an ebook, they make no sense.

Well, last time I looked (but it's been a while, so things may have changed) it did make sense to set the left and right margins as body margins, because setting them as page margins made ADE page numbers collide with the text.

DrChiper · 11-24-2017, 04:12 AM

I always start every css with:

Code:

* {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

to get rid of any possible default margin settings.

Although I never use page numbers, I always DO use a body margin of 1% to keep the text from colliding to the e-reader display sides, hence allow a better reading experience. Further margin needs are set, where appropriate, with <p>, <blockquote>, etc.

Just my 2cts...

JSWolf · 11-24-2017, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Well, last time I looked (but it's been a while, so things may have changed) it did make sense to set the left and right margins as body margins, because setting them as page margins made ADE page numbers collide with the text.

Why do you read with ADE right margin page numbers turned on?

JSWolf · 11-24-2017, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrChiper

I always start every css with:

Code:

* {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

to get rid of any possible default margin settings.

Although I never use page numbers, I always DO use a body margin of 1% to keep the text from colliding to the e-reader display sides, hence allow a better reading experience. Further margin needs are set, where appropriate, with <p>, <blockquote>, etc.

Just my 2cts...

Using a % for margins is a really bad idea. Don't give such advice to others. Using a % means things change based on what screen you are reading with. Your margins will be different reading on a 7", 6", 5" screens. Better to use a margin of 0 given that you have a Kobo. You can just use the margin slider to change the margins.

DrChiper · 11-24-2017, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Using a % for margins is a really bad idea. Don't give such advice to others.

Advice can be ignored or taken: I never enforce my meaning (like some people seem to do).

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Using a % means things change based on what screen you are reading with. Your margins will be different reading on a 7", 6", 5" screens.

And that is exactly what I intended. In proportion with the screen format. So, what is the point?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Better to use a margin of 0 given that you have a Kobo. You can just use the margin slider to change the margins.

Well, not everybody uses a Kobo.

DoctorOhh · 11-24-2017, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Quote:

Originally Posted by heitormsilva

Converting from EPUB to AZW3 Calibre is generating the following CSS to the <body>

Code:

.calibre {
    margin-bottom: 0;
    margin-top: 0;
    padding-left: 0;
    padding-right: 0
    }

The resources/template/html.css is blank and the value of "Convert settings -> Page setup -> margins" are set to less than 0.

What else could I do to prevent this to happen?

Nothing, body margins are always set to zero so they dont interfere with page margins. You dont want body margins in an ebook, they make no sense.

I'm confused, my body margin (always <body class="calibre">) is set by default in calibre is 5pts.

Code:

.calibre {
  display: block;
  font-size: 1.25em;
  line-height: 1.2;
  margin-bottom: 0;
  margin-left: 5pt;
  margin-right: 5pt;
  margin-top: 0;
  padding-left: 0;
  padding-right: 0;
  text-align: left;
}

My page margin set by default by calibre as

Code:

@page {
  margin-bottom: 5pt;
  margin-top: 5pt;
  }

When I change the the values in page setup and mark Left and Top unchanged the Page top remains unchanged, the Body left disappears. Yet when I change the Right and Bottom to 15pts the body right and the page bottom both change to 15pts.

Something seems inconsistent.

theducks · 11-24-2017, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why do you read with ADE right margin page numbers turned on?

Because they can not be turned OFF in the version on the device.

doubleshuffle · 11-24-2017, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Because they can not be turned OFF in the version on the device.

Exactly. Actually, I do turn them off, but when I make a book I also think of devices on which you can't do that.

11-23-2017, 08:32 PM	#1
heitormsilva Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2017 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Calibre default CSS to <body> Converting from EPUB to AZW3 Calibre is generating the following CSS to the <body> Code: .calibre { margin-bottom: 0; margin-top: 0; padding-left: 0; padding-right: 0 } The resources/template/html.css is blank and the value of "Convert settings -> Page setup -> margins" are set to less than 0. What else could I do to prevent this to happen?

11-24-2017, 04:12 AM	#6
DrChiper Bookish Posts: 1,006 Karma: 2003162 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: PC, t1, t2, t3, Clara BW, Clara HD, Libra 2, Libra Color, Nxtpaper 11	I always start every css with: Code: * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } to get rid of any possible default margin settings. Although I never use page numbers, I always DO use a body margin of 1% to keep the text from colliding to the e-reader display sides, hence allow a better reading experience. Further margin needs are set, where appropriate, with <p>, <blockquote>, etc. Just my 2cts...

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11-23-2017, 09:26 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,195 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Nothing, body margins are always set to zero so they dont interfere with page margins. You dont want body margins in an ebook, they make no sense.

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heitormsilva Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2017 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Please, don't get me wrong, but I just can't get used with a piece of software imposing its patterns. It sounds a kind of dictatorship. I just think that the choice should be let to user.

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kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,195 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Every software in existence imposes choices on the user. The very act oc creating software means imposing choices on the user.

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