Frustrated with commas when saving/sending

Kralik · 05-22-2012, 09:47 AM

For reference: I use a rooted NST with ReLaunch as my file manager. It displays simple folders and filenames. And I LOVE Calibre. Awesome work.

I've been having problems getting filenames to save correctly when I either save to disk or send to my device. Let's say I have a book named "The Librarian". The title sort is then "Librarian, The". When I save it to disk with the {title} field, it instead uses the title sort with the comma. Yuck--I'd really prefer to see the title as normal when I browse for it. Hmmm... after much searching and delving through the Calibre documentation, I discovered swap_around_commas(). Yay! So I set it up and it fixed that problem... while introducing another. Any title with a comma in it is mixed up, such as:

"I, Robot" ==> "Robot I"
"Miles, Mystery and Mayhem" ==> "Mystery and Mayhem Miles"

Ugh, not good. After searching these forums I finally stumbled upon another piece of the puzzle: tweaks.py. I set save_template_title_series_sorting = 'strictly_alphabetic' and found that it solved the "Librarian, The" problem I had earlier. But... it didn't fix the problem with commas in titles. I've tried with and without swap_around_commas(). Sigh...

Is there any way to have Calibre save the files with exactly what is in the title field, no more, no less? Why does it insist on moving things around when I explicitly state I want the {title}?

kovidgoyal · 05-22-2012, 09:48 AM

Preferences->Tweaks->Control formatting of title and series in templates

Kralik · 05-22-2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Preferences->Tweaks->Control formatting of title and series in templates

Honored to receive a dev response!

That seems to be the same setting I had tried already, namely:

save_template_title_series_sorting = 'strictly_alphabetic'

Which fixed titles changing from "The Librarian" to "Librarian, The" but didn't work with titles that already had commas like "I, Robot"

kovidgoyal · 05-22-2012, 12:37 PM

Use that tweak and then dont use any functions in your templates. Or as the comment of that tweak says, use the raw_field() functions.

Kralik · 05-22-2012, 06:19 PM

Thank you, I got it to work!

HarleyPixie · 07-24-2012, 06:11 PM

Mind explaining exactly how you got this to work? I've tried every way i could think of to get the function to work and can't.

Seems to me it would just make more sense and be simpler if the {title}/{series} and {title_sort}/{series_sort} were seperate options, like the {authors} and {authors_sort} already are. This really shouldn't be such a complicated option.

HarleyPixie · 07-25-2012, 04:13 PM

Sigh. Well, I think I figured out from another thread about timestamps how to use the raw_field.. {:'raw_field('series')'} .. now the problem is that if there is no series, it puts "none" in its place instead, which is annoying.

chaley · 07-25-2012, 04:34 PM

@HarleyPixie: would you tell us what you are trying to do? Unless you are doing something very unusual, I can't see any reason why you should be futzing with raw_field and swap_around_comma instead of using the tweak described in post #2.

To be precise, the tweak is "Control formatting of title and series when used in templates" (search for save_template_title_series_sorting)

05-22-2012, 09:47 AM	#1
Kralik Guru Posts: 609 Karma: 1013897 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Rooted NST	Frustrated with commas when saving/sending For reference: I use a rooted NST with ReLaunch as my file manager. It displays simple folders and filenames. And I LOVE Calibre. Awesome work. I've been having problems getting filenames to save correctly when I either save to disk or send to my device. Let's say I have a book named "The Librarian". The title sort is then "Librarian, The". When I save it to disk with the {title} field, it instead uses the title sort with the comma. Yuck--I'd really prefer to see the title as normal when I browse for it. Hmmm... after much searching and delving through the Calibre documentation, I discovered swap_around_commas(). Yay! So I set it up and it fixed that problem... while introducing another. Any title with a comma in it is mixed up, such as: "I, Robot" ==> "Robot I" "Miles, Mystery and Mayhem" ==> "Mystery and Mayhem Miles" Ugh, not good. After searching these forums I finally stumbled upon another piece of the puzzle: tweaks.py. I set save_template_title_series_sorting = 'strictly_alphabetic' and found that it solved the "Librarian, The" problem I had earlier. But... it didn't fix the problem with commas in titles. I've tried with and without swap_around_commas(). Sigh... Is there any way to have Calibre save the files with exactly what is in the title field, no more, no less? Why does it insist on moving things around when I explicitly state I want the {title}?

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05-22-2012, 09:48 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,216 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Preferences->Tweaks->Control formatting of title and series in templates

05-22-2012, 12:37 PM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,216 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Use that tweak and then dont use any functions in your templates. Or as the comment of that tweak says, use the raw_field() functions.

05-22-2012, 06:19 PM	#5
Kralik Guru Posts: 609 Karma: 1013897 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Rooted NST	Thank you, I got it to work!

07-24-2012, 06:11 PM	#6
HarleyPixie Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Nook Simple Touch	Mind explaining exactly how you got this to work? I've tried every way i could think of to get the function to work and can't. Seems to me it would just make more sense and be simpler if the {title}/{series} and {title_sort}/{series_sort} were seperate options, like the {authors} and {authors_sort} already are. This really shouldn't be such a complicated option.

07-25-2012, 04:13 PM	#7
HarleyPixie Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Nook Simple Touch	Sigh. Well, I think I figured out from another thread about timestamps how to use the raw_field.. {:'raw_field('series')'} .. now the problem is that if there is no series, it puts "none" in its place instead, which is annoying.

07-25-2012, 04:34 PM	#8
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,343 Karma: 8012652 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	@HarleyPixie: would you tell us what you are trying to do? Unless you are doing something very unusual, I can't see any reason why you should be futzing with raw_field and swap_around_comma instead of using the tweak described in post #2. To be precise, the tweak is "Control formatting of title and series when used in templates" (search for save_template_title_series_sorting)

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