Problems with Book Designer and some HTML-Files

SteffenH · 09-13-2007, 06:54 PM

Recently I tried to format the book "Future Imperfect" by ecconomist David D. Friedman (free draft at: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html) to lrf-format with Book Designer. Unfortunately it isn't possible to load or copy and paste the html-file in the editor whit out destroying the html-script (sorry, I'm a layman) and losing the linking of footnotes. Could anybody help me to transform this file to the lrf-format. Are there better tools for this task?

Thanks

Steffen

JSWolf · 09-13-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteffenH

Recently I tried to format the book "Future Imperfect" by ecconomist David D. Friedman (free draft at: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html) to lrf-format with Book Designer. Unfortunately it isn't possible to load or copy and paste the html-file in the editor whit out destroying the html-script (sorry, I'm a layman) and losing the linking of footnotes. Could anybody help me to transform this file to the lrf-format. Are there better tools for this task?

Thanks

Steffen

You could also try html2lrf part of the libprs500 package to convert this to LRF. But the real issue here is that a lot of the footnotes are links to external webpages. You won't be able to visit those pages to know what those footnotes mean.

SteffenH · 09-13-2007, 08:00 PM

Thanks, I hope I will get it with html2lrf. I hope that it not necessary to know the meaning of all footnotes, because in a printed version you can't get the linked footnote too.

Steffen

JSWolf · 09-13-2007, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteffenH

Thanks, I hope I will get it with html2lrf. I hope that it not necessary to know the meaning of all footnotes, because in a printed version you can't get the linked footnote too.

Steffen

Could be why it is still a work in progress and hopefully eventually the footnotes won't have links.

slayda · 09-13-2007, 08:59 PM

Don't know whether my problem is similar but I had an HTML book that would hang when BD tried to work it. I finally found that the "hanging" was occurring in MS Word as BD was using it. I eventually found an HTML-to-RTF program & then I was able to get it converted to LRF using BD. Never was sure what the problem was.

JSWolf · 09-13-2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

Don't know whether my problem is similar but I had an HTML book that would hang when BD tried to work it. I finally found that the "hanging" was occuring in MS Word as BD was using it. I eventually found an HTMT-to-RTF program & then I was able to get it converted to LRF using BD. Never was sure what the problem was.

I had one book do the same thing. It was with the RTF file after I made some edits to it.

kovidgoyal · 09-13-2007, 10:15 PM

web2lrf --url http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html

SteffenH · 09-14-2007, 03:30 AM

Thank you! Sounds very easy.

Steffen

andym · 09-14-2007, 03:55 AM

Looking at the source of the book I'm pretty sure the problem is with MS Word, which has added in a whole bunch of stuff - for example a footnote produces this:

Code:

<a style='mso-footnote-id:
ftn41' href="#_ftn41" name="_ftnref41" title=""><span
class=MsoFootnoteReference><span style='mso-special-character:footnote'><![if !supportFootnotes]>[41]<![endif]></span></span></a><span
class=MsoFootnoteReference> </span>

I would guess this is what is causing problems for Book Designer.

I'd suggest saving it as plain text and converting from that - though unfortunately you could lose the footnotes. My advice to anyone wanting to produce a decent quality html file for conversion is get a decent text editor program and don't go anywhere near any MS product other than NotePad.

SteffenH · 09-17-2007, 04:00 AM

@kovidgoyal:

I tried it but got a lot of errormessages and it took a lotof time,so i desided to cancel the prozess. What went wrong?

Beste,

Steffen

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

web2lrf --url http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html

This is not working well at all. The problem, is that a lot of the footnotes are URLs. Could you make an option in Web2lrf to specify the level of tracing links that it uses? If we could specify just ONE link level for this it might work.

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2007, 11:55 AM

There already is web2lrf --help

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

There already is web2lrf --help

It says the default is none and yet it is recursing links.

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2007, 12:01 PM

oh i'm sorry the help shows the wrong default. Default is 1.

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 12:04 PM

This works....

web2lrf -r 0 -a "David Friendman" -t "Future Imperfect" --url http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html

09-13-2007, 06:54 PM	#1
SteffenH Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 475341 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kobo Mini, TrekStor Pyrus Mini	Problems with Book Designer and some HTML-Files Recently I tried to format the book "Future Imperfect" by ecconomist David D. Friedman (free draft at: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html) to lrf-format with Book Designer. Unfortunately it isn't possible to load or copy and paste the html-file in the editor whit out destroying the html-script (sorry, I'm a layman) and losing the linking of footnotes. Could anybody help me to transform this file to the lrf-format. Are there better tools for this task? Thanks Steffen

09-13-2007, 08:59 PM	#5
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	Don't know whether my problem is similar but I had an HTML book that would hang when BD tried to work it. I finally found that the "hanging" was occurring in MS Word as BD was using it. I eventually found an HTML-to-RTF program & then I was able to get it converted to LRF using BD. Never was sure what the problem was. Last edited by slayda; 09-17-2007 at 12:11 PM.

09-14-2007, 03:55 AM	#9
andym Groupie Posts: 189 Karma: 793 Join Date: Oct 2006	Looking at the source of the book I'm pretty sure the problem is with MS Word, which has added in a whole bunch of stuff - for example a footnote produces this: Code: <a style='mso-footnote-id: ftn41' href="#_ftn41" name="_ftnref41" title=""><span class=MsoFootnoteReference><span style='mso-special-character:footnote'><![if !supportFootnotes]>[41]<![endif]></span></span></a><span class=MsoFootnoteReference> </span> I would guess this is what is causing problems for Book Designer. I'd suggest saving it as plain text and converting from that - though unfortunately you could lose the footnotes. My advice to anyone wanting to produce a decent quality html file for conversion is get a decent text editor program and don't go anywhere near any MS product other than NotePad. Last edited by andym; 09-14-2007 at 03:57 AM.

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SteffenH Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 475341 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kobo Mini, TrekStor Pyrus Mini	Thanks, I hope I will get it with html2lrf. I hope that it not necessary to know the meaning of all footnotes, because in a printed version you can't get the linked footnote too. Steffen

09-13-2007, 10:15 PM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,594 Karma: 28548962 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	web2lrf --url http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html

09-14-2007, 03:30 AM	#8
SteffenH Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 475341 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kobo Mini, TrekStor Pyrus Mini	Thank you! Sounds very easy. Steffen

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SteffenH Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 475341 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: Kindle 3, Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kobo Mini, TrekStor Pyrus Mini	@kovidgoyal: I tried it but got a lot of errormessages and it took a lotof time,so i desided to cancel the prozess. What went wrong? Beste, Steffen

09-17-2007, 11:55 AM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,594 Karma: 28548962 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	There already is web2lrf --help

09-17-2007, 12:01 PM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,594 Karma: 28548962 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	oh i'm sorry the help shows the wrong default. Default is 1.

09-17-2007, 12:04 PM	#15
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,642 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	This works.... web2lrf -r 0 -a "David Friendman" -t "Future Imperfect" --url http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Future_Imperfect.html