Was the Giza Pyramid a power plant?

rock · 04-20-2010, 10:22 PM

I have heard for a long time the Great Pyramid was not a tomb, and was much different then the other Pyramids.

Well I just heard this one today while watching a program on History Channel. Along with other claims Mr. Dunn made (Egyptians used large saws to cut granite), this was something that really caught my eye. I wonder if I can find this in Ebook form, but I was wondering what other scientific minds think about this?

Here is his book

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1879181509/

and His official website/

http://www.gizapower.com/

Also let me say I do not share the views of this, I just thought it was VERY interesting concept.

Delta Tango · 04-21-2010, 01:30 AM

Make sure you wear a tinfoil hat while reading.

HarryT · 04-21-2010, 04:54 AM

"The Egyptians used large saws to cut granite" (that's still the way that granite is cut today, by the way) is rather a different sort of claim to "the great pyramid is a power plant", don't you think?

GeoffC · 04-21-2010, 05:04 AM

Shades of Erich von Däniken ....

kacir · 04-21-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rock

I have heard for a long time the Great Pyramid was not a tomb, and was much different then the other Pyramids.

Well, until today it is not proven that the Great pyramid was a tomb.
No mummy, no burial artifacts, not even wall inscriptions typical for other burial places were ever found in the great pyramid. It does not mean that it was not a tomb, it only means we do not have a direct proof at the moment. Most probably generations of grave-robbers obliterated any proof that might have been there.

I have read an interesting theory, from some French scientist, that the blocks the pyramid is build with are in fact a special type of concrete. He even patented the concrete. In the meanwhile a huge pit - a stone quarry was discovered next to the pyramid. The problem was, the quarry where they mined the granite was later filled with all the rubble left after the pyramid was finished. That is why it was only discovered a few years ago.

I have seen a nice program on Discovery where they demonstrated how the blocks were cut. The ground was weakened by a fire and water combination and then it was pounded with dolomite boulders. The dolomite boulders were roughly the size of an average cabbage and were held in two hands by a person squatting on ground. An unbelievably primitive process. If you count how many blocks there are inside the pyramid and how long it takes to pound out a single block out of the ground using only other stones there is no wonder there are so many interesting theories.

Delta Tango · 04-21-2010, 05:35 AM

With so much cheap labor there's nothing that can't be done.
You could even build... the Great Pyramid itself.

Tombs inside pyramids are generally full of traps, well hidden and there are usually fake tombs. It could be that in this case it's just too well hidden.

There is absolutely no proof that it is anything but a grave.

Javed · 04-21-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rock

Well I just heard this one today while watching a program on History Channel.

Rock, could you please post the name of the program?

rock · 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM

Hey Harry, he says a power plant and by saws, he means big round saws, like mechanical ones used at plants.

Also he is not saying anything about aliens, just they were more advance then people give them credit for.

The show was Ancient Aliens, but he never said aliens, the had the ancient aliens theorist use his theory to further theirs.

Basically he says the shafts leading the the queens chamber were filled with zinc, and I forget the other compound, to create hydrogen, then the hydrogen would go out the kings chamber shaft where it could be harnessed.

Interesting theory as the quens chamber they did find salt residue on all the walls.

Also why should we just assume it was a tomb? If it was assumed that the illiad was a just grand story, then troy would have never been found. I am not saying it isn't but if evidence isn't there you still look for other reasons.

Also I typed this from my droid, so please forgive any typos.

Also disclaimer again, I do not support claims by Mr: Dunn, just find it interesting.

Also this is not the exact Saw he is talking about, but same principle. They had a Saw in the queries, where they could push the stone into. What he says you had workers turning the say with basically a rope and crank while other workers pushed the stone into the saw.

Delta Tango · 04-21-2010, 12:44 PM

There are reasons to believe they had saws but not circular. What they did find some evidence to was basically just straight piece of copper (which, by chance, was naturally alloyed) which they ran over stones. They used sand for saw teeth.

HarryT · 04-21-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta Tango

There are reasons to believe they had saws but not circular. What they did find some evidence to was basically just straight piece of copper (which, by chance, was naturally alloyed) which they ran over stones. They used sand for saw teeth.

There's an old water-powered stone-cutting mill near where I live in the NW of England, and that's basically exactly the way that it, too, worked. The motive power was water rather than muscle, but some technologies just work so well that there's really no reason to change them.

Delta Tango · 04-21-2010, 01:33 PM

OMG, IT IS TRUE!!!!

The Egyptians did use contemporary technology !!

pdurrant · 04-21-2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Tango

OMG, IT IS TRUE!!!!

The Egyptians did use contemporary technology !!

Everyone, everywhere, everywhen has been found to use contemporary technology.

It would be finding some use of anachronistic technology that would be news

The power-plant idea is nuts. No, I haven't read his book. I'm just calling it nuts on general principles.

But the great pyramid is weird. For a site that has really good data on it, see http://www.cheops.org/

It hasn't got the best navigation, but it does have some wonderful data, including pictures of the exploration of the strange shafts leading from the two chambers.

I just wish they could get permission to go back and do more exploration.

HistoryWes · 04-21-2010, 02:04 PM

I think its pretty obvious they used pyramid power to cut the blocks to make the pyramid. That's why there are so many of them. You need a big pyramid to make a great pyramid. You need a medium pyramid to make a big one. You need a small pyramid to make a medium one. And you need a wee bitty pyramid to make a small one. The real mystery isn't how they made the great pyramid, but how they made the wee bitty ones.

rock · 04-21-2010, 02:06 PM

yeah I posted that cheops site before. Good stuff.

It is nuts, but still interesting someone can come up with that idea.

I think it is nuts because he talked about how they formed the energy, but how did they capture it after it left the pyramid? what the heck was it used for? It doesn't make much sense, but I want to kind of read it to see how far out it is.

here is the link I posted in another thread.

http://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/khufu-...t-pyramid.html

wodin · 04-21-2010, 03:00 PM

Naw! They used lasers, powered by the pyramid power plant ... wait a minute, that creates a chicken-egg conundrum!

04-20-2010, 10:22 PM	#1
rock Addict Posts: 240 Karma: 18772 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Nook, Astak EZ Reader Pocket, iPhone 3g, Droid	Was the Giza Pyramid a power plant? I have heard for a long time the Great Pyramid was not a tomb, and was much different then the other Pyramids. Well I just heard this one today while watching a program on History Channel. Along with other claims Mr. Dunn made (Egyptians used large saws to cut granite), this was something that really caught my eye. I wonder if I can find this in Ebook form, but I was wondering what other scientific minds think about this? Here is his book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1879181509/ and His official website/ http://www.gizapower.com/ Also let me say I do not share the views of this, I just thought it was VERY interesting concept. Last edited by rock; 04-20-2010 at 10:29 PM.

04-21-2010, 10:41 AM	#8
rock Addict Posts: 240 Karma: 18772 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Nook, Astak EZ Reader Pocket, iPhone 3g, Droid	Hey Harry, he says a power plant and by saws, he means big round saws, like mechanical ones used at plants. Also he is not saying anything about aliens, just they were more advance then people give them credit for. The show was Ancient Aliens, but he never said aliens, the had the ancient aliens theorist use his theory to further theirs. Basically he says the shafts leading the the queens chamber were filled with zinc, and I forget the other compound, to create hydrogen, then the hydrogen would go out the kings chamber shaft where it could be harnessed. Interesting theory as the quens chamber they did find salt residue on all the walls. Also why should we just assume it was a tomb? If it was assumed that the illiad was a just grand story, then troy would have never been found. I am not saying it isn't but if evidence isn't there you still look for other reasons. Also I typed this from my droid, so please forgive any typos. Also disclaimer again, I do not support claims by Mr: Dunn, just find it interesting. Also this is not the exact Saw he is talking about, but same principle. They had a Saw in the queries, where they could push the stone into. What he says you had workers turning the say with basically a rope and crank while other workers pushed the stone into the saw. Last edited by rock; 04-21-2010 at 11:26 AM.

04-21-2010, 02:06 PM	#14
rock Addict Posts: 240 Karma: 18772 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Nook, Astak EZ Reader Pocket, iPhone 3g, Droid	yeah I posted that cheops site before. Good stuff. It is nuts, but still interesting someone can come up with that idea. I think it is nuts because he talked about how they formed the energy, but how did they capture it after it left the pyramid? what the heck was it used for? It doesn't make much sense, but I want to kind of read it to see how far out it is. here is the link I posted in another thread. http://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/khufu-...t-pyramid.html Last edited by rock; 04-21-2010 at 02:10 PM.

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Delta Tango Groupie Posts: 161 Karma: 20000 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Device: Onyx Boox	With so much cheap labor there's nothing that can't be done. You could even build... the Great Pyramid itself. Tombs inside pyramids are generally full of traps, well hidden and there are usually fake tombs. It could be that in this case it's just too well hidden. There is absolutely no proof that it is anything but a grave.

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Delta Tango Groupie Posts: 161 Karma: 20000 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Device: Onyx Boox	There are reasons to believe they had saws but not circular. What they did find some evidence to was basically just straight piece of copper (which, by chance, was naturally alloyed) which they ran over stones. They used sand for saw teeth.

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Delta Tango Groupie Posts: 161 Karma: 20000 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Device: Onyx Boox	OMG, IT IS TRUE!!!! The Egyptians did use contemporary technology !!

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