Sony Reader vs. iRex Iliad e-book reader - Page 8

JSWolf · 08-07-2007, 06:15 AM

But do mobiPocket books you purchase withthe DRMhave the line spaces. I know eReader books do.

HarryT · 08-07-2007, 06:34 AM

Dunno - I've never bought one. Baen's DRM-free MobiPocket books don't have blank lines.

JSWolf · 08-07-2007, 07:02 AM

I don't understand why nobody can answer that question. Has nobody here ever bought a DRM MobiPocket book?

Adam B. · 08-07-2007, 07:07 AM

I don't think there is an answer. I've seen non-drm books with and without it. The very few that I've purchased don't, but it's always up to the publisher of the ebook. It has nothing to do with the format itself. I'm sure there are some books that have it.

You can usually preview a book before you purchase it from the mobipocket store. That will show you how it's formatted, and give you your answer.

JSWolf · 08-07-2007, 10:35 AM

I know eReader books have the paragraph spacing. When I downloaded a few of their free books, they all had them.

Shaggy · 08-08-2007, 10:06 AM

Based on comments I've seen from iRex in the past, things like line spacing, justification, and hyphenation, are set by the publisher when the mobipocket book is created. There currently is not a way in the Mobipocket Reader application to change those settings. So to answer your question, it really depends on the individual ebook and how it was created. Some will have them, some won't.

Mobipocket controls development on the reader application, so if it's going to change it'll be something Mobipocket has to do, iRex doesn't have any control over it. It'd be nice if those things were user options, rather than pre-determined by the publisher.

JSWolf · 08-08-2007, 10:51 AM

I have never seen any purchased books in BBeB or LIT that have extra line spacing. eReader books do have the line spacing. So eReader format is right out. What I might do is contact MobiPocket and ask since I cannot get a definitive answer.

ig88 · 08-08-2007, 10:47 PM

I have purchased about twenty books from mobipicket.

No lines or spaces between paragraphs.

JSWolf · 08-08-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ig88

I have purchased about twenty books from mobipicket.

No lines or spaces between paragraphs.

Then MobiPocket is ok as an ebook format. It seems to be eReader that's the one that's lousy. Line spaces bah!

HarryT · 08-09-2007, 02:12 AM

With MobiPocket it's definitely down to the book creator. Most of my MP books don't have blank lines between the paragraphs, but I've just started reading one which does.

canicula · 08-11-2007, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

It seems to be eReader that's the one that's lousy. Line spaces bah!

I'm confused. What do you mean by line spaces? I've got books from the Sony Store and ones I've done myself in Bookdesigner on my Sony Reader that just look like paper books on screen. What's the problem?

Ian

HarryT · 08-11-2007, 07:23 AM

Jon doesn't like books which have blank lines between the paragraphs. Some books use blank lines to separate paragraphs, rather than indenting the first line. Doesn't bother me either way, I must admit.

canicula · 08-11-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Jon doesn't like books which have blank lines between the paragraphs. Some books use blank lines to separate paragraphs, rather than indenting the first line. Doesn't bother me either way, I must admit.

Ah. A quick check of the books on my Reader from the Connect Store seems to indicate that the books from the Classic range have extra lines whereas the books I've purchased from the normal range use paragraph indenting rather than extra lines. I checked about 5 from each range.

Ian

JSWolf · 08-11-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by canicula

Ah. A quick check of the books on my Reader from the Connect Store seems to indicate that the books from the Classic range have extra lines whereas the books I've purchased from the normal range use paragraph indenting rather than extra lines. I checked about 5 from each range.

Ian

The Classics are books they've gotten from sources such as Project Gutenberg and left the line spaces in even though it's simple to remove the extra blank lines between paragraphs. I can do it in less then 5 min in Word.

Bunter · 08-20-2007, 05:29 AM

I think both sony and especially irex haven't actually figured out the audience they are marketing their products for...

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08-07-2007, 06:15 AM	#106
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,746 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	But do mobiPocket books you purchase withthe DRMhave the line spaces. I know eReader books do.

08-07-2007, 06:34 AM	#107
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Dunno - I've never bought one. Baen's DRM-free MobiPocket books don't have blank lines.

08-07-2007, 07:02 AM	#108
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,746 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I don't understand why nobody can answer that question. Has nobody here ever bought a DRM MobiPocket book?

08-07-2007, 07:07 AM	#109
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	I don't think there is an answer. I've seen non-drm books with and without it. The very few that I've purchased don't, but it's always up to the publisher of the ebook. It has nothing to do with the format itself. I'm sure there are some books that have it. You can usually preview a book before you purchase it from the mobipocket store. That will show you how it's formatted, and give you your answer.

08-07-2007, 10:35 AM	#110
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,746 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I know eReader books have the paragraph spacing. When I downloaded a few of their free books, they all had them.

08-08-2007, 10:06 AM	#111
Shaggy Wizard Posts: 4,293 Karma: 529619 Join Date: May 2007 Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG	Based on comments I've seen from iRex in the past, things like line spacing, justification, and hyphenation, are set by the publisher when the mobipocket book is created. There currently is not a way in the Mobipocket Reader application to change those settings. So to answer your question, it really depends on the individual ebook and how it was created. Some will have them, some won't. Mobipocket controls development on the reader application, so if it's going to change it'll be something Mobipocket has to do, iRex doesn't have any control over it. It'd be nice if those things were user options, rather than pre-determined by the publisher.

08-08-2007, 10:51 AM	#112
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,746 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I have never seen any purchased books in BBeB or LIT that have extra line spacing. eReader books do have the line spacing. So eReader format is right out. What I might do is contact MobiPocket and ask since I cannot get a definitive answer.

08-08-2007, 10:47 PM	#113
ig88 Gadget Guy Posts: 76 Karma: 84 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iLiad - iPhone - OSX	I have purchased about twenty books from mobipicket. No lines or spaces between paragraphs.

08-09-2007, 02:12 AM	#115
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	With MobiPocket it's definitely down to the book creator. Most of my MP books don't have blank lines between the paragraphs, but I've just started reading one which does.

08-11-2007, 07:23 AM	#117
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Jon doesn't like books which have blank lines between the paragraphs. Some books use blank lines to separate paragraphs, rather than indenting the first line. Doesn't bother me either way, I must admit.

08-20-2007, 05:29 AM	#120
Bunter Member Posts: 18 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Device: iRex iLiad	I think both sony and especially irex haven't actually figured out the audience they are marketing their products for...