Notion Ink Adam (the one with a PixelQi display) gets final specs, price and date

[LDBoblo]

Could we not call it an [insert product name] killer?

Also, prices are not finalized, and the 160 hour claim came from some crappy reporting that stated it would get 10x the power savings over its standard 16 hour runtime, which is not true. The 140 hour claim was basically audio only, which may imply a sort of functional standby, rather than "reflective mode" of the display. We don't know how these numbers will play out in the real world anyway since we don't have final software.

[DawnFalcon]

Originally Posted by Shaggy

The low power mode still draws more power than eInk, if that tells you anything. Keep in mind that there is more to a device's power profile than just the display. You can have the lowest power screen in the world, but it won't do you any good if the CPU is sucking your battery dry.

Well, the Tegra 2 is apparently very good at throttling power usage. Which is why an awful lot of the slates we'll be seeing will be based on it; It certainly looks like Nvidia are onto something with the design.

[Dan23]

I noticed the battery life listed on the website exactly match those listed on Nvidia's site for tegra 2:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1262837617533.html
Nvidia got those numbers testing on a 5 inch tablet (and even then it was probably best case scenario). I find it unlikely that a 10 inch tablet in transmissive (regular) mode would achieve the same numbers (16 hours hd video) unless 1) Pixel Qi has significantly lower power consumption compared to normal tablet/mid screens in regular mode as well or 2) 5 inch tablet Nvidia tested on wasted power in other ways.

[DawnFalcon]

Good catch

[Sonist]

Originally Posted by Dan23

It says 140hr audio. Not 160hr PixelQi display.
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Which is pretty close to the published iPad specs for music playback only: 140 hours.

[LDBoblo]

So we're still stuck with untested, vague, possibly just theoretical results, which shouldn't be too surprising. When there's a testable production unit available with final software, we'll find out about its real performance.

As far as the nvidia test on a 5 inch tablet, they don't mention the battery size or capacity of it either.

[Dan23]

Originally Posted by LDBoblo

As far as the nvidia test on a 5 inch tablet, they don't mention the battery size or capacity of it either.

Good point. I guess if the Adam battery is significantly larger (enough to make up for the difference in screen power draw) than the 5 inch tablet those numbers are still possible for the Adam.

[emilianm]

Originally Posted by thomman

It does have a few things going for it (compared to iPad).. 160h battery, 1080p playback, camera, USB expansion, slightly larger screen. The main negative will be the lack of applications (as Android doesnt have as many apps as iPad - does it matter is a different question) and the "pre-paid" 3G connectivity (which is not clear yet for Adam).

I will keep an eye on it.. it excites me way more than the iPad did.

In this moment non of the applications from the iPhone/Ipod applications are hard-coded to run on a specific (very small) resolution and they will not run OK on the iPad.They will have to create new applications or to update the existing ones.On the other hand the Android applications are designed form the beginning to target multiple resolutions..and they have usually an expandable layout .Plus , on the market, we already have 3 or 4 andorid tablets that are running successfully many applications....so......

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by LDBoblo

So we're still stuck with untested, vague, possibly just theoretical results, which shouldn't be too surprising.

That's never slowed down the Pixel Qi hype before.

[dmikov]

Originally Posted by Dan23

It says 140hr audio. Not 160hr PixelQi display.
Also, where does the price range come from. I've seen that on multiple websites, but I do not see it on the notion ink website.

No it say exactly 160 hr in Backlight off mode. Nothing about audio Where you taking your data?

http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-in...pecs-finalized

[Demas]

http://www.notionink.in/adamfeature.php

"Battery Life Over 140 hours audio and over 16 hours of HD video playback"

[dmaul1114]

Originally Posted by LDBoblo

Could we not call it an [insert product name] killer?

Yep.

This site would be much better if people would quit calling things like this the Kindle/e-ink killer AND the e-ink crowd would quit with the "if it glows it blows" comments.

Plenty of room for all types of devices that can display e-books on the market. Everyone has their own needs and preferences, and there are plenty of companies looking to make a buck by filling all those niches.

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by dmikov

No it say exactly 160 hr in Backlight off mode. Nothing about audio Where you taking your data?

http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-in...pecs-finalized

The "140 audio" data is coming directly from the companies website. You're referring to reviews, which have already been known to have made some invalid assumptions in order to come up with that 160 number.

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

Plenty of room for all types of devices that can display e-books on the market.

I prefer stone tablets. Talk about great battery life! Page refresh sucks though.

[LDBoblo]

Originally Posted by Demas

http://www.notionink.in/adamfeature.php

"Battery Life Over 140 hours audio and over 16 hours of HD video playback"

Yep, which are exactly the same numbers Nvidia used for their Tegra2 promo, tested on a 5-inch tablet, as another poster mentioned. We don't know how much they're just copy/pasting and how much is legitimately tested/determined in-house. Given what we've seen so far from them, I'm not taking their numbers seriously yet.

Originally Posted by Shaggy

The "140 audio" data is coming directly from the companies website. You're referring to reviews, which have already been known to have made some invalid assumptions in order to come up with that 160 number.

Well to be fair, Gizmodo claims the chart they posted a snap of was provided by the company. Wherever that lack of consistency comes from, it's really undermining any credibility their claims have.