iPad This sums up the iPad for me

[Not_A_Crook]

This conversation is extremely hilarious.

My two cents.... If that is too much....

[GntlmnBndt]

Originally Posted by Not_A_Crook

This is why apple discussions are so unstable...

Actually, the same thing seems to happen around here in discussions about PDF ebooks, DRM, eInk, the color of the sky...

The Bandit

[LS650]

I'm amazed at some of the AppleHate that folks are aiming at the iPad. I guess people are upset that they let themselves get sucked in by all the hype and really thought Uncle Steve would make a magical new super tablet for $1000, and are surprised to see a casual computing device for half the price.

I think he delivered exactly what I was expecting: an enhanced version of an already very successful product. I really like my iPod Touch, but can definitely see getting a lot of usage out of a larger screen iPad. $500 seems pretty reasonable to me, especially when you compare it to what is being offered by the competition at that price.

If you don't like iPad, don't buy one. My guess is that it will be fairly successful, on a par with the current iPod Touch.

I showed my best friend some of the comments I've seen on various web-sites about 'iTampon', 'Max-iPad', etc. She shook her head and said, "What, are some of these computers geeks 12-year old boys?"

[GlennD]

Just to clear up the discussion about applications being used on multiple iphones.

This is from apple's iTunes terms of use page:

Usage Rules

(i) Your use of the Products is conditioned upon your prior acceptance of the terms of this Agreement.

(ii) You shall be authorized to use the Products only for personal, noncommercial use.

(iii) You shall be authorized to use the Products on five Apple-authorized devices at any time, except in the case of Movie Rentals, as described below.

[DawnFalcon]

Never mind

[GlennD]

Found one more bit applying specifically to applications:

Your license to each Product that you obtain through the Service is subject to the Licensed Application End User License Agreement set forth below, and you agree that the terms of the Licensed Application End User License Agreement will apply to each Apple Product and to each Third Party Product that you license through the Service, unless the Product is covered by a valid end user license agreement entered into between you and the licensor of the Product (the “Licensor”), in which case the Licensor’s end user license agreement will apply to that Product. The Licensor reserves all rights in and to the Product not expressly granted to you.

I read that as "the standard Apple usage agreement applies unless the application licensor specifies a different licensing agreement."

[GlennD]

one more tidbit from the app license itself. Sorry, I'm wading through legalese, not trying to spam the thread. :/

a. Scope of License: This license granted to you for the Licensed Application by Licensor is limited to a non-transferable license to use the Licensed Application on any iPhone or iPod touch that you own or control and as permitted by the Usage Rules set forth in Section 9.b. of the App Store Terms and Conditions (the “Usage Rules”).

All of this is on the same license page I linked above, you can search for a phrase to read the whole thing in context.

[Sonist]

Originally Posted by GlennD

one more tidbit from the app license itself. Sorry, I'm wading through legalese, not trying to spam the thread. :/...

I am glad to see someone called DawnFalcon on this. Chalk it up with his other false claims, such as "single core CPU" and "a large part of the market is IPS screens now."

Debating is fine, not liking a product is fine, but making stuff up to support an argument, is not fine.

[DawnFalcon]

Never mind

[sianon]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

I note that the SD/USB connectors are, like, $30... As for the border, given that this is a touch-sensitive device, I think a 1/2" frame makes a lot of sense. As for apps from their app store, well, the SDK is free to download so you can write your own - and there are 140 THOUSAND apps all ready to run.

BTW, as of right now, you're tied to B&N or Amazon for direct download of Nook or Kindle ebooks. So how is that different than iTunes and the iPad??? (Yes, even if you buy an ebook from Webscriptions or Fictionwise for the Kindle, you *MUST* have it sent through Amazon to wirelessly download.)

Derek

Simply not true Derek. You can transfer content for the kindle thorugh your PC very easily, it is a simple drag and drop action.

[stustaff]

A LOT of people who seem unimpressed with the iPad seem to make very basic mistakes that show they dont really know much about the latest apple devices and are basing judgements on incorrect information.

From accusing people of abusing licences by having their apps on multiple products, to believing iTunes music still has DRM and isnt MP3 and many other examples.

I think whilst having opinions about a product and discussing them is good it is very difficult to have an intelligent conversation when some people present mistaken incorrect beleifs as facts.

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by stustaff

A LOT of people who seem unimpressed with the iPad seem to make very basic mistakes that show they dont really know much about the latest apple devices and are basing judgements on incorrect information.

From accusing people of abusing licences by having their apps on multiple products, to believing iTunes music still has DRM and isnt MP3 and many other examples.

I think whilst having opinions about a product and discussing them is good it is very difficult to have an intelligent conversation when some people present mistaken incorrect beleifs as facts.

Equally, there are many people out there who would have been just as impressed if Jobs had wandered onto stage, squatted down and shat on a plate before holding it up triumphantly

Apple certainly seems to polarise opinion - I can't wait till they release an e-reader.

[DawnFalcon]

Never mind

[CyGuy]

If you own a Windows 7 computer, you can find applications from a million different sources. If you own an iWhatever, you have one source for applications. The mystery to me is how can so many people fall for that? Having the hardware locked to installing only "approved" applications allows them to dictate what you can or can't install, and set the price to whatever they want. How/why would anyone fall for that?

[BWhite]

Originally Posted by LS650

I'm amazed at some of the AppleHate that folks are aiming at the iPad. I guess people are upset that they let themselves get sucked in by all the hype and really thought Uncle Steve would make a magical new super tablet for $1000, and are surprised to see a casual computing device for half the price.

I think you hit one of the nails on the head.

The other 'nail' I noticed is how even some Apple fans are disappointed. You can read flavors of this on engadget.com and gizmodo.com in analysis by blog writers, folks who write for those blogs.

The iPad is a niche device in that some pundits are pointing out the iPad is trying to fit in between a Smart Phone and the bottom, bottom end of Netbooks. Well most of those blog writers (you could see pictures of them working at tables at CES) are 'road warriors' and have two smart phones and a laptop - their comments are that Uncle Steve has failed to convince them to weigh themselves down with an additional device.

The logical person, reading such comments, would immediately conclude, "well, then the iPad is not for you." But for some of the former fans who are now disappointed in that they cannot justify spending money for the iPad the dislike seems to be turning to hate.

Because there was a big tech 'party' and there was no flavor of 'cake' for them? I do not know.