let's get liseuse recognized as a real word

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

maybe not the majority but a very high proportion. see homograph.

here's a list : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_homographs

That is certainly not a complete list!

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

That is certainly not a complete list!

no, certainly not, but it does illustrate the point.

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

no, certainly not, but it does illustrate the point.

Indeed it does, and many thanks for that and for reminding me of the word 'homograph' which I had forgotten!

[EricGagne]

I'm Québécois (French Canadian if you prefer that......although we don't) and I sincerely hope that "Liseuse" doesn't become the official word for an eReader. I think they should just invent a new word like they did for most other technologies.

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Anyone in Canada want to submit it to Quebec's Office de la Langue Française, as per this post? https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=74

ETA: Ooops posted at the same time the author of the post I quoted did!

[EricGagne]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Anyone in Canada want to submit it to Quebec's Office de la Langue Française, as per this post? https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=74

ETA: Ooops posted at the same time the author of the post I quoted did!

I can do that. I'm pretty sure they'll come up with "Lecteur de livres électronique".

Is eReader the "official" word in English ?

[EricGagne]

Originally Posted by EricGagne

I can do that. I'm pretty sure they'll come up with "Lecteur de livres électronique".

Is eReader the "official" word in English ?

I just went to do it and they no longer accept requests online. We have to call and they charge 5$.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by EricGagne

I can do that. I'm pretty sure they'll come up with "Lecteur de livres électronique".

Is eReader the "official" word in English ?

nope, eReader is much contested (particularly here, ironically by the same people contesting "liseuse" ) because it is also the name of a file format and therefore can lead to confusion when people don't understand the context (or if the context is ambiguous). i suspect however that in the end, "ereader" or maybe even "reader" will become the most commonly used word in english despite the possible confusion with the format. (i'm still holding out for liseuse though. ) there is no "official" word in english so far, which is actually how "liseuse" got started (in a discussion about "what to call these things").

Originally Posted by EricGagne

I just went to do it and they no longer accept requests online. We have to call and they charge 5$.

let's start a chipin ! i'm sure between us we can come up with 5$. if we do, will you call in the word and let us know what they say ?

i can give you plenty of supporting links.

[EricGagne]

I don't mind paying the 5$. I just can't do it now because I'm sure it's gonna take time before I find my way through to someone.

[Nate the great]

Here is an example of why I want to adopt this word. In the following sentence "ebook reader" can be used 3 times:

I am an (person) holding my (device), which runs a particular (software) called Mobipocket.

Do you see the confusion here?

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Here is an example of why I want to adopt this word. In the following sentence "ebook reader" can be used 3 times:

I am an (person) holding my (device), which runs a particular (software) called Mobipocket.

Do you see the confusion here?

and just think if you are using a new [Barnes & Noble software*] instead of Mobipocket, how the confusion can be even worse.

*eReader.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by EricGagne

I don't mind paying the 5$. I just can't do it now because I'm sure it's gonna take time before I find my way through to someone.

thanks ! that's pretty awesome ! if you ever come to paris, i'll buy you a drink to thank you !

[Taylor514ce]

Originally Posted by GeoffC

i "just" call 'it' a book ....

Me too. I don't have to explain that this particular KIND of book is printed with a hardcover on a larger paper size and with such-and-such a binding, as opposed to several other types of books, for example, a "paper back" or "trade cover" or, in this case, "electronic".

I read books. When someone points to my Sony Reader and asks me what it is, I explain that it is a book. Then I show them. "See? Words. Now I turn the page... and this particular book is about the development of the English language, by John McWhorter, and is very interesting. I think I'll get back to it."

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

Here is an example of why I want to adopt this word. In the following sentence "ebook reader" can be used 3 times:

I am an (person) holding my (device), which runs a particular (software) called Mobipocket.

Do you see the confusion here?

I wish that there was not so many different ways of abusing otherwise innocent posts .... :headbangingsmilie:

[Teyrnon]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

hm, so what about links to blogs / articles using the word ? should those go in the article, or in the talk page ? (i've never edited wikipedia before, i suppose you can tell... )

Anything informational about the article's subject should be in the article.

also, how do you contest the deletion ? is there something (other than editing the article) we should do ?

That would go on the talk page, actually. In which case you'd summarize your changes and argue that the article now meets the requirements set down.