Seriousness 100W incandescent lightbulbs banned in the EU from 1st Sep - Page 6

HarryT · 09-01-2009, 04:44 AM

Thanks!

GeoffC · 09-01-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow

This thread has got me thinking that maybe not all CFLs are as rubbish as the ones I've encountered so far.

So, today I've ordered some Full Spectrum Daylight bulbs to see what they're like - who knows, maybe they'll be even better than incandecsents.

to everyone who has contributed to an interesting discussion.

These are very bright and well worth the money. They impart a cooler light than the normal bulbs and are as quick as incandescent ones to light up.

Icarusbop · 09-01-2009, 11:42 AM

Very bad descision, yet another chapter in the current government to turn our one nice country into a totalitarion dictatorship.

Yet another right to make an informed choice taken away.

Yet another freedom lost.

My dad used to call the UK 'A free county' - no longer do we hear this phrase, and things like this are the reason why.

GeoffC · 09-01-2009, 11:48 AM

actually I thought the UK was a country ....

Icarusbop · 09-01-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

actually I thought the UK was a country ....

Well spotted, That was a typo..... I just happened to miss a critical letter out...

The UK is a country, but I could over dramatise things and say, the UK is no longer a country, but is a slave nation subservient to the EU, because our spineless politicians have happily signed away all our rights...

HarryT · 09-01-2009, 12:20 PM

You could say that, yes, but do you think you're likely to have the urge to say such a silly thing?

Icarusbop · 09-01-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You could say that, yes, but do you think you're likely to have the urge to say such a silly thing?

Yes - nearly every time I read in the news things like ' UK to ban 100W lightbulbs'

I did say I was dramatising things.

Kostas · 09-01-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Icarusbop

Very bad descision, yet another chapter in the current government to turn our one nice country into a totalitarion dictatorship.

Yet another right to make an informed choice taken away.

Yet another freedom lost.

My dad used to call the UK 'A free county' - no longer do we hear this phrase, and things like this are the reason why.

Do you mean that if it was up to UK to make the decision, you would keep going with incadescent bulbs? Would you have also kept fridges with CFCs?
The problem is that it is a bad decision or who made it?

Daithi · 09-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Why does the government keep making everything I like illegal?

-- CFC powered hairspray
-- lead based paints
-- arsenic based pesticides
-- fur coats made out of sea otters
-- leaded gasoline
-- multi-gallon flush toilets
-- perfume made from sperm whales
-- 400 h.p. and 8 m.p.g. muscle car engines
-- high flow shower heads
-- high-phosphate dishwasher soap
-- incandescent lights

when does the madness stop?

HarryT · 09-02-2009, 03:05 AM

Don't forget lead additives in petrol (gasoline). How dare the government take away our freedom by banning it!

Sweetpea · 09-02-2009, 03:35 AM

Well, in most of those cases there is a good (or better) alternative. I still don't think that a CFL is a good alternative for incandescents...

Icarusbop · 09-02-2009, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas

Do you mean that if it was up to UK to make the decision, you would keep going with incadescent bulbs? Would you have also kept fridges with CFCs?
The problem is that it is a bad decision or who made it?

It is a bad descision because of the following quote which I completely agree with...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Well, in most of those cases there is a good (or better) alternative. I still don't think that a CFL is a good alternative for incandescents...

Daithi · 09-02-2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Well, in most of those cases there is a good (or better) alternative. I still don't think that a CFL is a good alternative for incandescents...

I understand the sentiment Sweetpea. I wasn't very happy when I bought a house with a low-flow toilet that worked horribly. From what I understand, soap without phosphates also sucks (there still legal where I live). So, I do agree that a working alternative should be available before a product is banned. However, in the case of lighting, I believe a working alternative does exist. I've used fluorescent lighting for years, as has every school I've attended and business at which I've worked. It may not provide the same warmth of light, but when weighed against environmental concerns we need to decide which is more important.

doreenjoy · 09-03-2009, 01:30 AM

I love soap without phosphates. It gets clothes clean and rinses out easily.

And I'm proud to be a citizen of the EU.

JayCeeEll · 09-03-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daithi

Why does the government keep making everything I like illegal?

-- CFC powered hairspray
-- lead based paints
-- arsenic based pesticides
-- fur coats made out of sea otters
-- leaded gasoline
-- multi-gallon flush toilets
-- perfume made from sperm whales
-- 400 h.p. and 8 m.p.g. muscle car engines
-- high flow shower heads
-- high-phosphate dishwasher soap
-- incandescent lights

when does the madness stop?

You also missed Halon in fire control systems

Next stop (according to Dragons Den last night) is oil based paints.

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