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Old 10-17-2025, 07:43 PM   #1066
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I have heard from a highly respected book publisher that the industry is very close to releasing a form of DRM in hard cover books. The book’s cover is impregnated with a DNA reader. Anyone opening the book, other than the first reader, and has reached a certain page (variable) a self-destruction sequence is activated. All ink dissolves leaving blank pages. No longer will you be able to sell, loan or bequeath a book to a second party. Authors are very excited about this as it portends an avalanche of sales. Even used book stores are supportive as they envision prices of already published books will skyrocket.
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Old 10-17-2025, 07:53 PM   #1068
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I have heard from a highly respected book publisher that the industry is very close to releasing a form of DRM in hard cover books. The book’s cover is impregnated with a DNA reader. Anyone opening the book, other than the first reader, and has reached a certain page (variable) a self-destruction sequence is activated. All ink dissolves leaving blank pages. No longer will you be able to sell, loan or bequeath a book to a second party. Authors are very excited about this as it portends an avalanche of sales. Even used book stores are supportive as they envision prices of already published books will skyrocket.
A couple of decades ago I read a science fiction novel where all household appliances self-destructed after a certain period, forcing you to buy new ones. Doesn't seem all that unlikely these days, alas...
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A couple of decades ago I read a science fiction novel where all household appliances self-destructed after a certain period, forcing you to buy new ones. Doesn't seem all that unlikely these days, alas...
I thought we already had that.
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Hello to all.
In case someone is interested, here is an article (in French, sorry) about a developer (Pixelmelt, who has, I saw, a page on Github) who managed to convert an e-book from KFX to EPub by analyzing the file very carefully and transcribing/decoding nearly every single letter - over 1 million operations.
Not much detail, but may be the basis for future deDRMing developments.



https://korben.info/kindle-drm-obfus...ng-amazon.html
This is actually about taking the book from the Kindle Cloud Reader and converting to epub. But yeah crazy how much goes into obfuscating the text.
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Old 10-18-2025, 06:02 AM   #1072
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This is actually about taking the book from the Kindle Cloud Reader and converting to epub. But yeah crazy how much goes into obfuscating the text.
I no longer think all this is just to be able to show people ads. The effort seems far too much only for that. I've started to think that Amazon is trying to stop their exclusives from ending up on pirate sites. As Amazon exclusives aren't legally available anywhere else, those who want to buy/borrow them must willy-nilly give their money to Amazon. The problem for Amazon is that lots of people probably just download pirated copies from various shadow libraries, and Amazon wants to stop this. That it also inconveniences their legal customers who want to read on non-Amazon devices or just make personal back-ups, is obviously of no interest whatsoever to Amazon.
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Old 10-18-2025, 06:29 AM   #1073
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This isn't even about piracy, but about Amazon control.

Also Amazon "exclusive" needs to be illegal everywhere. It's not like only one supermarket only exclusively having Heinz baked beans, but it's like as if one supermarket had ALL baked beans and anything similar.

Amazon has over 90% of world English Language ebooks and in USA over 80% of paper print book online sales. They are a monopolist deciding that you can only buy from them and only read on their apps and devices (which they illegally monitor and change for non-borrow content).
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Old 10-18-2025, 07:36 AM   #1074
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The vast majority of uploaders to pirate sites are never going to do that much work. They don't sell the books or get any money for them; they just share their files for a number of reasons, of which monetary gain is certainly not one. If Amazon makes DRM removal impossible or too convoluted, most of them might well give up. Commercial pirates won't, but those are the minority. Shadow libraries are mostly populated by ordinary folks, who buy or borrow books, remove the DRM and upload.

Edit: you might ask how I know this, of course. Because I did some research when I started to think about this. Previously I thought shadow libraries demand a fee or a subscription and operate for money; but it actually seems not to be true. They probably get some ad revenue, but the files they share are free.

There are subscription-based pirate sites too, but they're far less popular and not well known.

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I have heard from a highly respected book publisher that the industry is very close to releasing a form of DRM in hard cover books. The book’s cover is impregnated with a DNA reader. Anyone opening the book, other than the first reader, and has reached a certain page (variable) a self-destruction sequence is activated. All ink dissolves leaving blank pages. No longer will you be able to sell, loan or bequeath a book to a second party. Authors are very excited about this as it portends an avalanche of sales. Even used book stores are supportive as they envision prices of already published books will skyrocket.
This is another reason not to buy hardcover books.
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You do know that's fantasy?
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Fantasy! Thank you. That’s a kind word for it.
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The vast majority of uploaders to pirate sites are never going to do that much work. They don't sell the books or get any money for them; they just share their files for a number of reasons, of which monetary gain is certainly not one. If Amazon makes DRM removal impossible or too convoluted, most of them might well give up. Commercial pirates won't, but those are the minority. Shadow libraries are mostly populated by ordinary folks, who buy or borrow books, remove the DRM and upload.
I should point out that while it is the case *now* it was not the case before, when ebooks were rare and the only way to get books into digital form was to buy one, unbind it and scan/ocr. I remember getting many an OCRed txt/rtf file from IRC. In the same vein as scanlation groups, there were groups dedicating to creating, well, primitive ebooks. Sadly, there was no other way to get most English books back then, the only import book shop was in capital, and carried a very limited, very expensive selection. (and I was minor without any income).

Sadly, these days, there are out of print books that are simply not available in electronic format. Like, at all (that I could find). And with the glut of relatively easy to get ebooks, nobody bothers to OCR them.

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You do know that's fantasy?
More like speculative fiction. Or dystopian fiction.
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Sadly, these days, there are out of print books that are simply not available in electronic format. Like, at all (that I could find). And with the glut of relatively easy to get ebooks, nobody bothers to OCR them.
Sadly true. There are a few books like that I've tried to find myself. No luck - either no digital copy anywhere or, at best, a badly formatted and error-riddled PDF conversion. Which I had no way to correct, not being able to acquire even a paper copy of the book.
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I no longer think all this is just to be able to show people ads. The effort seems far too much only for that. I've started to think that Amazon is trying to stop their exclusives from ending up on pirate sites. As Amazon exclusives aren't legally available anywhere else, those who want to buy/borrow them must willy-nilly give their money to Amazon. The problem for Amazon is that lots of people probably just download pirated copies from various shadow libraries, and Amazon wants to stop this. That it also inconveniences their legal customers who want to read on non-Amazon devices or just make personal back-ups, is obviously of no interest whatsoever to Amazon.
I just don't get it. I do have some favorite authors. Some of my favorite authors have gone Amazon exclusive. I just stopped reading them. There are just too many books out there to choose from for me to be willing to submit to Amazon's restrictions.

The last book I bought from Amazon (before I realized the DRM change), I was able to download from my Oasis but the cover was not is color. So I downloaded the KFX-ZIP from my Colorsoft and Calibre was able to copy the color cover to the liberated file. I haven't bought a book from Amazon since.
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