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Old 05-12-2025, 01:59 PM   #2851
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However, DVDFab is a team with the technical prowess to crack KFX-ZIP DRM.
You said that they're still using old versions of Kindle for PC. That means they haven't cracked it.
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However, DVDFab is a team with the technical prowess to crack KFX-ZIP DRM.
It's a very plausible scenario that Rakuten Kobo could upgrade its DRM at any point in the future, which would then render Obok inoperable.
So the dvdfab obok would also be inoperable, so no need to buy dvdfab obok now?
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Old 05-12-2025, 02:06 PM   #2853
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You said that they're still using old versions of Kindle for PC. That means they haven't cracked it.
I haven't tested it myself, but I've read reports from the Japanese community saying it worked without any problems on K4PC 2.7.1 (70978).

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So the dvdfab obok would also be inoperable, so no need to buy dvdfab obok now?
If you trust DVDFab, they will crack the new DRM as soon as it changes. That's what they've been doing on a lot of platforms.
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Old 05-12-2025, 02:21 PM   #2854
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If you trust DVDFab, they will crack the new DRM as soon as it changes. That's what they've been doing on a lot of platforms.
Maybe. Although it took them how long to put out a product to crack the current obok DRM?

Personally, I don't see a reason to purchase the DVDfab stuff now. YMMV.
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You said that they're still using old versions of Kindle for PC. That means they haven't cracked it.
I have tested it with a fresh install of K4PC 2.7.1 (70978) and I was able to download two books released after April 22 as DRM-free EPUBs. One was released on May 7 and the other May 9.

I also had to "fiddle around a bit to get the first download working." But "once it starts downloading, though, it seems to stabilize."

I'm not sure if the fiddling around with it has to do with where you're located. I'm in Canada but the application initially brought me to Amazon.com in the built-in browser. But I changed it to Amazon.ca and logged into my account there.

It kept on trying to switch back to Amazon.com and when I tried to download a book it appeared to get stuck on the "Analyzing..." stage. When it finally said it was downloading the book it would fail. So, I restarted both K4PC and BookFab several times and then eventually I was able to download the first book. The second book then downloaded seamlessly.
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Old 05-12-2025, 02:37 PM   #2856
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With DVDFab Kindle Converter, can you get a DRM free KFX that you can import into calibre to use KFX Input to do the conversion to ePub?
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Old 05-12-2025, 02:42 PM   #2857
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You said that they're still using old versions of Kindle for PC. That means they haven't cracked it.
You might have mixed this up with Epubor, who are basically just selling a repackage of the DeDRM tools that only work through 2.4.0.

I have high hopes for the DVDFab product based on their history, I used to use their DVD tools waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back in the day.

Unfortunately, my first trial of their Kindle product isn't going so well, even with Kindle for PC installed and authorized BookFab for Kindle just keeps telling me it couldn't detect a valid authorization. Hopefully their support is quick to respond, I have a suspicion about what might be causing the issue but I'd like them to look before I change anything.
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Old 05-12-2025, 03:09 PM   #2858
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For now, you can consider this a backup plan in case Rakuten Kobo discontinues ADEPT DRM.
Yes, that's another reason I like Kobo. Two ways to DeDRM. ADE (or DeACSM) and DeDRM. Or Kobo Desktop (or Kobo ereader) and Obok DeDRM.
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If you trust DVDFab, they will crack the new DRM as soon as it changes. That's what they've been doing on a lot of platforms.
Not sure how they can get around Kindle completely cutting off K4PC, which... is sort of plausible, as I see.
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Old 05-12-2025, 04:09 PM   #2860
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I suspect that they haven't figured out the latest KFX DRM. They've just figured out a workaround for the April 22 limitation on older K4PC.
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Old 05-12-2025, 04:29 PM   #2861
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I suspect that they haven't figured out the latest KFX DRM. They've just figured out a workaround for the April 22 limitation on older K4PC.
They're not limiting use to older K4PC. I've tested it with the latest K4PC 2.7.1 (70978) mentioned in my post here 2855.
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Old 05-12-2025, 04:42 PM   #2862
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However, DVDFab is a team with the technical prowess to crack KFX-ZIP DRM.
It's a very plausible scenario that Rakuten Kobo could upgrade its DRM at any point in the future, which would then render Obok inoperable.

Until Rakuten actually does what you suggest may happen: "...Kobo could upgrade its DRM at any point in the future...", then I won't worry about it. And not pay some company for something that already exists.

Your crystal ball perhaps needs some Windex...until then, the future is actually...in the future.

YMMV, of course.
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TL;DR: If you're happy with KFX-based EPUBs, you can get BookFab Kindle Converter and strip the DRM from Kindle books released after April 22nd. They are legit – they've made short work of the latest KFX-ZIP DRM.

BookFab Kindle Converter has not been released. It is supposed to be released next week:

A quote from someone named "Mona", who is apparently on "the team", in response to an individual who acquired the BookFab Kindle Converter (Never Expire) product: "BookFab Kindle Converter has not been released yet. Sorry for the confusion. Please kindly wait for the upcoming version next week."


The above quote/response was from 5/8/2025 and from Reddit.
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It doesn't seem to matter which version of K4PC you log in with -- older or latest. But since the book isn't being downloaded with your own installation of K4PC, I suspect they've figured out how to download even books published after April 22 as if it is an older K4PC with older KFX DRM. Either way I'm never paying for DRM removal.
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With DVDFab Kindle Converter, can you get a DRM free KFX that you can import into calibre to use KFX Output to do the conversion to ePub?
You mean KFX Input. KFX Output is for conversion to KFX.
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