Amazon Announces Kindle Colorsoft

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I'm trying to get my head around what they have done with the Scribe. i can't see the new version is much better than the original especially as some of the new updates are software related which could surely be passed down to the original Scribe. It also doesn't seem worth the outlay of at least £380.

They have kept the form factor the same as the new covers fit both 2022 and 2024 models.

Maybe it's as someone suggested that some parts are not easily available so they had to redo the Scribe to use more readily available parts.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by DNSB

I am worried that most ebook publishers seem to treat the purchaser as an idiot who won't care about access to their books in the future.

Well, to be honest, many people don't care. They buy, read, delete, buy the next one etc.

It's the hoarders and re-readers who care. And I think those folks are the minority, going by the people I know (who read books at all).

[JSWolf]

I look forward to comparison reviews of the Libra Colour to the Colorsoft. I'm hoping BadEReader does a video review. Granted the reviews are not great but they do quite good video so we'd get to see then side-by-side.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DNSB

For me, the wake up call for removing DRM was in the dim distant past when one company I had purchased several ebooks from went out of business leaving me with books which I could no longer read on my computer. At that point, if there was a way to remove DRM from ebooks, I used it.

Years later (2011-2012???), Microsoft decided to shut down the servers which allowed me to read their .lit format ebooks. I was happy that I had embraced ConvertLIT (despite it's rather unfortunate short name) and so ended up losing only 2 books which ConvertLIT was unable to remove the DRM from. At that point, I made a conscious decision that if I was unable to remove DRM so I could make a backup copy, I would not buy the book. Actually, Microsoft is now a 2 time loser since they dropped ebooks from the Microsoft Store and turned off the DRM servers for those books in 2019.

I'm not worried about Amazon yanking a book. I will have a backup even if that happens again. I am worried that most ebook publishers seem to treat the purchaser as an idiot who won't care about access to their books in the future. Despite a lack of evidence that DRM reduces piracy (in music downloads for example, low priced non-DRMmed music did not lead to an increase in piracy).

Perhaps this discussion could be moved to a more relevant thread? DRM and backups is not a good fit for this thread.

Tor has said that selling without DRM has not decreased sales.

[apastuszak]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Not exactly. Several other brands still offer physical buttons on their ereaders.

All current e-ink nooks have page turn buttons. And Kobo and Onyx both have= models with buttons. Clearly there is a demand, otherwise we would have so many other manufacturers making them.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by apastuszak

All current e-ink nooks have page turn buttons. And Kobo and Onyx both have= models with buttons. Clearly there is a demand, otherwise we would have so many other manufacturers making them.

Pocketbooks also have them.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Well, to be honest, many people don't care. They buy, read, delete, buy the next one etc.

It's the hoarders and re-readers who care. And I think those folks are the minority, going by the people I know (who read books at all).

If I was to use a Kindle, I'd need to be able to convert. If I buy from Amazon, I'll need to be able to convert. So conversion is another reason for no DRM.

[JSWolf]

The one thing I'll give Amazon high praise for is having a 7" PW6 BW. Where Kobo dropped the Libra 2 without a replacement.

[leaston]

I can't quite get my head around their decision to make minor changes to the Scribe and hike the price so much when they could (should) have added colour to the new Scribe. I'd have been all in with that one immediately. Comics, graphic novels and Manga would surely be a huge selling point for many people out there on a 10" screen device.

No physical buttons on the devices is disappointing and I still don't see the point in just being able to see book covers in colour. Do people routinely highlight text in novels? Not to mention the cost of the new colour Kindle compared to Kobo. Hmmm.

I'll remain a holdout until someone releases a 10" colour ereader here in the UK.

[Guido]

Has anyone been able to find any info on the RAM, CPU, or actual battery capacity of the new devices? I'm trying to add all of that info to this Kindle comparison table but it looks like Amazon isn't disclosing any of that info themselves this time around. They're not even mentioning the E Ink display types either.

The naming scheme has also just gotten even messier than it already was. The only consistent thing about their naming scheme used to be the release generation number. But for this 12th release generation they're switching that up too it seems. The product page for the new base model Kindle says: "Generation: Kindle (11th Generation) - 2024 release." for instance

Frustrating to say the least. Also, I was hoping to see some bigger improvements on the new models.

[j.p.s]

Generation wasn't always consistant even before they labled the first Scribe as first generation, and now it is even more muddled than you describe. According to tomsem, the description of the newest Scribe is: 'Kindle Scribe 1st edition - 2024 release'.

So now we have 'edition' with a 'release' modifier.

[Guido]

You're right, the 2022 Scribe didn't actually have a generation number either, going by this list:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...nt-only&nodl=0

Ugh.

[Dazrin]

It sounds like Sirtel won't be getting any more Kindles:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/16/...ysical-buttons

"Once current inventory of Kindle Oasis sells out online and in stores, we will not restock the device," Amazon rep Devon Corvasce told The Verge. "Today, all of our devices are touch-forward which is what our customers are comfortable with."

Can't say I'm surprised, although I would still really love a Voyage 2 with the squeeze type page turn buttons.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Dazrin

It sounds like Sirtel won't be getting any more Kindles:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/16/...ysical-buttons

Yeah, no Kindles in my future then. Of course, it's not impossible they'll change their mind again in a few years...

If I ever have to choose between a buttonless Kindle and a buttonless Kobo, Kobo is going to win hands down.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I think the Kindle Color is overpriced right now.

Originally Posted by Scoob

Completely agree. The Color Kindle is way overpriced compared to other companies offerings...

Yeah, but the Colorsoft comes without ads...