|  08-17-2022, 06:14 AM | #16 | |
| Still reading            Posts: 14,986 Karma: 111111111 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper | Quote: 
 Flu can be bad, which is why as a mitigation freshly designed vaccines for the new strains are free to all vulnerable people in Ireland each Winter. Of over 7,000 deaths in Ireland of people with Covid-19, over 5,000 had Covid-19 as cause of death. It would have been massively more without the free testing, lock downs and the free vaccines. Also the ICU were overwhelmed, resulting in some increase in deaths from other causes. That would have been also much higher without the masks and vaccines, because otherwise the demand on ICU would have been catastrophic. As it was the Government commandeered all private hospitals for additional ICU. Of course it is a pandemic and could easily have been very much worse. | |
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|  08-17-2022, 08:37 AM | #17 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,775 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022 | 
			
			I'd be ok with a fiction book set during the time frame of Covid, but wouldn't want to read a book centered on it. It's still disrupting our lives. We had family members who were unable to get together with us for the cookout we had with our oldest son, who was finally able to come home for a visit after 3 years. He lives in South Korea, and all the quarantine rules, travel restrictions, etc. meant not being able to fly home to visit. These family members are vaxxed, boosted, etc. and have now had Covid for the second time. It is still an issue, and many people have died. Several older members of our church died, some are now dealing with "Long Covid" etc. I wish they wouldn't call the shots "vaccines" as they certainly don't work in the same way as a true vaccine. They should be treated like flu shots. Hubby had the first 2 shots, won't be getting another. | 
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|  08-17-2022, 08:53 AM | #18 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 8,005 Karma: 71261339 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo Clara 2E | 
			
			I would read a fiction book. I've read 2 books so far. They both dealt with the early outbreak and the shutdown of transportation. Although I might be mixing them up with a movie/tv series. Most sociatal stuff that has personally effected me I get sucked into when I read it. | 
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|  08-17-2022, 09:58 AM | #19 | 
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,514 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | Moderator Notice I’m not going to edit the thread, but posts about vaccine policy and effectiveness need to be taken to P&R. Several of these are far over the line. Future posts along these lines will be deleted in their entirety. | 
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|  08-17-2022, 05:56 PM | #20 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,939 Karma: 34855886 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Galaxy Tab A9+, Moto G7 | 
			
			A book that mentions covid in passing is fine.  A book that centers around it would not be to my taste, and would probably be abandoned if I accidentally stumbled into reading it.  A book that tries to exploit it ... immediately to the trash heap for that author. To further clarify, a book about a generic pandemic is OK (as long as it's not obviously about covid, without mentioning covid). A book that mentions covid by name, in more than a brief passing sentence, is in the exploitation category IMHO. I don't think my views on this will change during the remainder of my life. I view exploitation of covid the same way most of us view racism, misogamy, antisemitism, etc. I just don't care to read about that stuff. | 
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|  08-18-2022, 12:10 AM | #21 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip | 
			
			I can recall only two books I've read in which the pandemic was an important element of the story, both of them suspense novels. In 56 Days by Catherine Ryan Howard, a newly dating couple move in together just as covid hits; one of them ends up dead. Carol Goodman's The Disinvited Guest is set ten years after covid, with a group of people isolating on an island during a new pandemic.  I don't feel one way or another about whether covid is included in a novel unless the story is specifically set in 2020-21, with other historical reference points. Which isn't common in most of the suspense books I read. | 
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|  08-18-2022, 02:09 AM | #22 | 
| C L J            Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2 | 
			
			I'll never read books about the pandemic. I want to forget the whole thing. During 2020 and 2021 I suffered terribly from anxiety, so much so that I bought myself a new ereader as a present for surviving with my mind intact.  This wasn't helped by the fact that the first lockdown in March 2020 lead to the death of a beloved cat - Cydric. All the vets were closed so he was unable to get proper treatment. He and my other cat were devoted, so I felt her grief also. And the normal support networks could not be called upon; no hugs etc from friends. So I went through the pandemic with just my cat Victoria. I never want to be reminded of that time. So I'll probably forever give books about the pandemic a miss. | 
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|  08-18-2022, 04:46 AM | #23 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2 | Quote: 
 One of my cats died a year later, in March 2021, but Covid had nothing to do with it. | |
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|  08-18-2022, 06:32 AM | #24 | 
| Member Retired            Posts: 805 Karma: 2091358 Join Date: May 2019 Device: Kindle Oasis 1st Gen, PB Era | 
			
			I don't read a lot of contemporary fiction, but when I do, I really don't want covid to be part of it.
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|  08-18-2022, 08:46 AM | #25 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			I would find it quite odd if any fiction I read that was set in the "real world" during the time of the pandemic failed to take Covid into account. Same as if new fiction set in Europe during the mid-1300's failed to mention The Black Death (or if fiction set in the late '30s, early '40's didn't mention WWII ). *shrug* Having said that: I'm not likely to seek out books that are about Covid (or rely heavily upon its effects upon society for plotting). It's simply too soon for me to "revisit" something I'm still experiencing is all. Last edited by DiapDealer; 08-18-2022 at 08:48 AM. | 
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|  08-18-2022, 10:32 AM | #26 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,061 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos | 
			
			It's similar to 9/11.  The first crime books out with that aftermath as a background were bothersome. I've read one short story with the pandemic in the background and it was weird. Affects people differently.
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|  08-18-2022, 11:46 AM | #27 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip | Quote: 
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|  08-18-2022, 12:06 PM | #28 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,776 Karma: 30081762 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US Device: ALL DEVICES ARE STOCK:  Kobo Clara, Tolino Shine 2, Sony PRS-T3, T1 | 
			
			I like fiction to be a temporary escape from my real world.  Maybe I'll stick to books written before 2020 for now....
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|  08-18-2022, 06:32 PM | #29 | |
| C L J            Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2 | Quote: 
 They did telephone consultations, which were useless. I blame their policy for his death and told them so on social media. During subsequent lockdowns local vets would see pets but their humans would have to wait outside and they began defining 'routine' work as vaccinations, neutering, etc which they were still not doing. If they'd said this during the first lockdown, he might still be alive. GPs were as bad. Many of them treated the pandemic as an excuse for an extended holiday. | |
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|  08-18-2022, 08:51 PM | #30 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,939 Karma: 34855886 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Galaxy Tab A9+, Moto G7 | Quote: 
 So I am sensitive to anyone trying to make money off of covid. That includes book authors. You may not feel this way, and that's fine. But I do. | |
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