Removing a format from the book does not remove it from the library

stdedos · 02-10-2022, 03:59 PM

I have a mobi ebook
which I have converted to epub
and then I decided I want to remove it

However, when I removed it, I saw that the epub file was still active in the library.

I didn't get a prompt "Do [I] want to remove the file?", so that is a weird behavior for me.

However, maybe that has an option somewhere to change it? 😕

BetterRed · 02-10-2022, 04:57 PM

How did you try to remove the MOBI?

Via Remove books->Remove files of a specific format from selected books You have to select the format(s) you want removed - see attachment.

or

Via right click on the MOBI format in Book Details and then Delete MOBI

or

????

BR

stdedos · 02-11-2022, 12:08 AM

Awesome suggestions! I removed it via the "Remove format from book" button in "Single Metadata Edit" view. Is it bug, or feature, that the file was still there?
(I have manually removed it now)

Does Calibre have a functionality to single out book files that are still in the library, but not referenced by any book entry?

theducks · 02-11-2022, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

Awesome suggestions! I removed it via the "Remove format from book" button in "Single Metadata Edit" view. Is it bug, or feature, that the file was still there?
(I have manually removed it now)

Does Calibre have a functionality to single out book files that are still in the library, but not referenced by any book entry?

This should never happen (normally). If there was a file left over, it means someone used the OS (or cloud sync) to rename it. Never have SYNC enabled while using Calibre. They will fight.

Library Maintenance: check Library will check the Database against what is there and list discrepancies. Those need to be fixed manually

ownedbycats · 02-11-2022, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

Awesome suggestions! I removed it via the "Remove format from book" button in "Single Metadata Edit" view. Is it bug, or feature, that the file was still there?
(I have manually removed it now)

Did you press 'ok' or 'cancel'? File changes in MDE aren't saved if you cancel -- I've been caught by that a few times.

BetterRed · 02-11-2022, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

I removed it via the "Remove format from book" button in "Single Metadata Edit" view. Is it bug, or feature, that the file was still there?

Ah-ha - Single Metadata Edit is a no-go zone for me.

Suggestion - if this is something you do regularly (as I do) give the Remove books->Remove files of a specific format from selected books action a keyboard shortcut, I use Alt+Del.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

Does Calibre have a functionality to single out book files that are still in the library, but not referenced by any book entry?

Library Maintenance ->Check library

BR

stdedos · 02-12-2022, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Library Maintenance: check Library will check the Database against what is there and list discrepancies. Those need to be fixed manually

Nice! It would be nice if the "Library Maintenance: check Library" function would open the directory of the problems (e.g. with `O` or double click on the path, or allowed copying the strings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Did you press 'ok' or 'cancel'? File changes in MDE aren't saved if you cancel -- I've been caught by that a few times.

I think so 😅 I mean, the Sigle Metadata edit dialog did not show the format, but the file manager did 😕

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Ah-ha - Single Metadata Edit is a no-go zone for me.

but but ... it's there 😅 why no-go? 😕

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Suggestion - if this is something you do regularly (as I do) give the Remove books->Remove files of a specific format from selected books action a keyboard shortcut, I use Alt+Del.

Thank you for the tip :-D

Thank you everyone :-D

theducks · 02-12-2022, 07:11 AM

If Calibre has no entry, how does it know what to open?

Errors can go both ways (because of events outside Calibre).

Book Formats that are in folders that Calibre does not acknowledge (listed in the MDE).

Books Calibre thinks it has a FORMAT, but it is missing in the folder it was supposed to be. (The entire folder could be missing)

Calibre can store non-book formats. Calibre can have Empty Book entries (no formats, just the entry (metadata +cover ). The formats box has to agree with what is actually present in the folder to consider the record, error free
BTW If you have 2 copies, the folder will have a different ID title (id)
Note {ID} is not visible in the MDE. It IS visible in the Details Pane
ID is not to be confused with Identifiers (abbr Ids in the MDE)

stdedos · 02-12-2022, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

If Calibre has no entry, how does it know what to open?

The entries that appear on "Library Maintenance: Check Library"?
Yeah, they don't exist in the Library, but Calibre found them (i.e. it has a path of them).

theducks · 02-12-2022, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

The entries that appear on "Library Maintenance: Check Library"?
Yeah, they don't exist in the Library, but Calibre found them (i.e. it has a path of them).

That is a report. Print it. Fix it.
Calibre use the DB entry to O(PEN) known folders
If you do things right, it is RARE that you need surgurey.

BTW Having a format (file) open in a 3rd party app can block the delete. I keep bumping into this reviewing PDF in my downloads and can't delete the file until I exit Reader

BetterRed · 02-12-2022, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stdedos

. . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Ah-ha - Single Metadata Edit is a no-go zone for me.

but but ... it's there 😅 why no-go? 😕

Because it's hard to drive with the keyboard.

Complex dialogue boxes inevitably require use of a point and click device, which I find difficult due to disability. And, they're bureaucratic (form-filling), I do all I can to avoid bureaucracy.

The only columns I can't change from the Book list are Comments and Identifiers. I avoid the first via a custom column and I don't make any use of Identifiers.

BR

stdedos · 02-12-2022, 04:15 PM

I do feel you on the hands-on-keyboard interaction :-D

02-10-2022, 03:59 PM	#1
stdedos Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: Mobiscribe	Removing a format from the book does not remove it from the library I have a mobi ebook which I have converted to epub and then I decided I want to remove it However, when I removed it, I saw that the epub file was still active in the library. I didn't get a prompt "Do [I] want to remove the file?", so that is a weird behavior for me. However, maybe that has an option somewhere to change it? 😕

02-10-2022, 04:57 PM	#2
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,010 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	How did you try to remove the MOBI? Via Remove books->Remove files of a specific format from selected books You have to select the format(s) you want removed - see attachment. or Via right click on the MOBI format in Book Details and then Delete MOBI or ???? BR Attached Thumbnails

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02-11-2022, 12:08 AM	#3
stdedos Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: Mobiscribe	Awesome suggestions! I removed it via the "Remove format from book" button in "Single Metadata Edit" view. Is it bug, or feature, that the file was still there? (I have manually removed it now) Does Calibre have a functionality to single out book files that are still in the library, but not referenced by any book entry?

02-12-2022, 07:11 AM	#8
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,250 Karma: 61360164 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	If Calibre has no entry, how does it know what to open? Errors can go both ways (because of events outside Calibre). Book Formats that are in folders that Calibre does not acknowledge (listed in the MDE). Books Calibre thinks it has a FORMAT, but it is missing in the folder it was supposed to be. (The entire folder could be missing) Calibre can store non-book formats. Calibre can have Empty Book entries (no formats, just the entry (metadata +cover ). The formats box has to agree with what is actually present in the folder to consider the record, error free BTW If you have 2 copies, the folder will have a different ID title (id) Note {ID} is not visible in the MDE. It IS visible in the Details Pane ID is not to be confused with Identifiers (abbr Ids in the MDE)

02-12-2022, 04:15 PM	#12
stdedos Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: Mobiscribe	I do feel you on the hands-on-keyboard interaction :-D

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