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JSWolf · 07-08-2021, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Agreed.

I'm thinking of starting a sword & sorcery thread in the reading recs section, though I'm not looking forward to suggestions of Lord of the Rings and Terry Brooks as sword & sorcery😢

But they do fit. So get ready.

conan50 · 07-08-2021, 08:42 AM

Sword and Sorcery thread would be nice. AKA Heroic Fantasy which would include Tolkien and Brooks, but Sword and Sorcery specifically always seemed a different anImal to me, primarily started by Howard.

Tarana · 07-08-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Agreed.

I'm thinking of starting a sword & sorcery thread in the reading recs section, though I'm not looking forward to suggestions of Lord of the Rings and Terry Brooks as sword & sorcery��

If you put a sticky at the top saying that thread forbids LOTR and Shannara recommendations, I will still join your group.

Even though they are my favorites.

ZodWallop · 07-08-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarana

If you put a sticky at the top saying that thread forbids LOTR and Shannara recommendations, I will still join your group.

Even though they are my favorites.

I don't hate them. Just sword and sorcery and high fantasy are different things. I guess I'll go start that thread.

Dr. Drib · 07-08-2021, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I don't hate them. Just sword and sorcery and high fantasy are different things. I guess I'll go start that thread.

I agree with you - completely.

Sword & Sorcery is a sub-category of Fantasy - a branch, if you will. A Sword & Sorcery thread would exclude the over-arching umbrella that includes Fantasy, which is all inclusive. I would want such authors/characters, as listed below - to name only a few of the classic examples:

Karl Edward Wagner's Kane stories
Fritz Leiber - Fafhrd and Gray Mouser
Some Michael Moorcock
Howard's Conan stories
Lin Carter's Thongor of Lemuria
Steve Dilks' stories of Gunthar
Gardner F. Fox 's Kothar stories
Joel Jenkin's Dire novels
T.C. Rypal
David C. Smith's novels
David C. Smith & Richard L. Tierney / Robert E. Howard - Red Sonja
Andrew J. Offutt
Davd Mason's Kavin novels

Now to be sure, these are only some of the classic writers (and a few newer ones). It's an easy jump to Sword and Planet stories, and from thence to Otis Adelbert Kline and Edgar Rice Burroughs.

There would then be authors such as:

C.L. Moore (certain works)
Henry Kuttner (certain works)
Leigh Brackett (certain works)

Publisher: DMR appears to be concentrating solely upon many of the newer writers of sword & sorcery.

My concern: I don't think the term sword & sorcery would be respected. You would start to get the overlapping term 'heroic fantasy, and then clueless individuals (e.g., those who have no idea what the term signifies) would start to include straight fantasy.

For those uninitiated who think that Fantasy alone - as a genre - is also sword & sorcery, they might wish to check out the link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_and_sorcery

rxmom03 · 07-08-2021, 11:57 PM

I don't think I have read any of these before (although they sound good). Would Michael J Sullivan's stories be in this sub-genre (at least the first ones with Royce and Hadrian)? Just curious since I don't exactly know where the dividing line would be. Thanks!

maddz · 07-09-2021, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

I agree with you - completely.

Sword & Sorcery is a sub-category of Fantasy - a branch, if you will. A Sword & Sorcery thread would exclude the over-arching umbrella that includes Fantasy, which is all inclusive. I would want such authors/characters, as listed below - to name only a few of the classic examples:

Karl Edward Wagner's Kane stories
Fritz Leiber - Fafhrd and Gray Mouser
Some Michael Moorcock
Howard's Conan stories
Lin Carter's Thongor of Lemuria
Steve Dilks' stories of Gunthar
Gardner F. Fox 's Kothar stories
Joel Jenkin's Dire novels
T.C. Rypal
David C. Smith's novels
David C. Smith & Richard L. Tierney / Robert E. Howard - Red Sonja
Andrew J. Offutt
Davd Mason's Kavin novels

Now to be sure, these are only some of the classic writers (and a few newer ones). It's an easy jump to Sword and Planet stories, and from thence to Otis Adelbert Kline and Edgar Rice Burroughs.

There would then be authors such as:

C.L. Moore (certain works)
Henry Kuttner (certain works)
Leigh Brackett (certain works)

Publisher: DMR appears to be concentrating solely upon many of the newer writers of sword & sorcery.

My concern: I don't think the term sword & sorcery would be respected. You would start to get the overlapping term 'heroic fantasy, and then clueless individuals (e.g., those who have no idea what the term signifies) would start to include straight fantasy.

For those uninitiated who think that Fantasy alone - as a genre - is also sword & sorcery, they might wish to check out the link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_and_sorcery

John Jakes - Brak the Barbarian

Dr. Drib · 07-09-2021, 07:48 AM

How could I forget Brak?

Absolutely!

salty-horse · 07-09-2021, 07:49 AM

Why are you discussing a reading recommendation thread in a deals thread?

GlenBarrington · 07-09-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by salty-horse

Why are you discussing a reading recommendation thread in a deals thread?

It's complicated, then toss in enthusiasm. . . You know. . . complicated.

Dr. Drib · 07-09-2021, 12:26 PM

Here's the link for the 'Sword & Sorcery' reading, recommendation, and discussion thread:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=340528

Please keep the Fantasy and Science Fiction out of it.

...Or Santa Claus will not visit your house this Christmas. (He's busy fighting evil sorcerers with his broadsword.)

ReadingManiac · 07-10-2021, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rxmom03

I don't think I have read any of these before (although they sound good). Would Michael J Sullivan's stories be in this sub-genre (at least the first ones with Royce and Hadrian)? Just curious since I don't exactly know where the dividing line would be. Thanks!

I'm a little woolley about the dividing line too. Would Zelazny's Amber and Hawkins' Goblin world count? Both have sword battles and magic.

ZodWallop · 07-10-2021, 02:30 PM

Philip K. Dick’s Electric Dreams is $1.99 at Amazon US.

A collection of 10 stories (I assume the ones adapted for the show of the same name, but I haven't watched the show yet).

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From the iconic author of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, stories that inspired the original dramatic series.

Though perhaps most famous as a novelist, Philip K. Dick wrote more than one hundred short stories over the course of his career, each as mind-bending and genre-defining as his longer works. Philip K. Dick’s Electric Dreams collects ten of the best. In “Autofac,” Dick shows us one of the earliest examples (and warnings) in science fiction of self-replicating machines. “Exhibit Piece” and “The Commuter” feature Dick exploring one of his favorite themes: the shifting nature of reality and whether it is even possible to perceive the world as it truly exists. And “The Hanging Stranger” provides a thrilling, dark political allegory as relevant today as it was when Dick wrote it at the height of the Cold War. Strange, funny, and powerful, the stories in this collection highlight a master at work, encapsulating his boundless imagination and deep understanding of the human condition.

Tarana · 07-12-2021, 10:23 AM

Lost in a Good Book By Jasper Fforde $1.99 Amazon, Kobo and B&N
Fantasy

Infinity Beach By Jack McDevitt $1.99 Amazon, Kobo and B&N
Military Scifi - I enjoyed a different book by this author.

ZodWallop · 07-13-2021, 12:03 AM

Northwest Smith by C.L. Moore is $1.99 at Amazon US.

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Meet the iconic space outlaw who “could be Han Solo’s grandfather,” in these stories by a pioneer of Golden Age science fiction (SF Signal).

First published in Weird Tales in the early 1930s, C.L. Moore’s Northwest Smith stories, especially “Shambleau,” were hailed as some of the most imaginative and vivid science fiction stories ever to come out of the golden age of sci-fi. At a time when women were heavily underrepresented in the genre, Moore was among the first to gain critical and popular acclaim, and decades later was inducted into the Science Fiction and Fantasy Hall of Fame.

Northwest Smith, now recognized by many as the archetypal space smuggler and gunslinger, is an adventurer in the classic sense of the word, and these thirteen stories chronicle the bizarre dangers, interstellar wonders, and titillating romances that captured the imagination of a generation.

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07-08-2021, 08:42 AM	#5207
conan50 Fanatic Posts: 597 Karma: 14054112 Join Date: Jun 2014 Device: kindle	Sword and Sorcery thread would be nice. AKA Heroic Fantasy which would include Tolkien and Brooks, but Sword and Sorcery specifically always seemed a different anImal to me, primarily started by Howard.

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rxmom03 Addict Posts: 222 Karma: 539264 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: DFW, TX Device: Kobo Clara 2E, Kobo Libra Colour, iPhone, iPad	I don't think I have read any of these before (although they sound good). Would Michael J Sullivan's stories be in this sub-genre (at least the first ones with Royce and Hadrian)? Just curious since I don't exactly know where the dividing line would be. Thanks!

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Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,611 Karma: 60184181 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	Here's the link for the 'Sword & Sorcery' reading, recommendation, and discussion thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=340528 Please keep the Fantasy and Science Fiction out of it. ...Or Santa Claus will not visit your house this Christmas. (He's busy fighting evil sorcerers with his broadsword.)

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