Computer Monitors for Photosensitive Readers? - Page 3

MarjaE · 05-04-2021, 12:43 AM

I've also looked into anti-glare screens. Although advertised as reducing glare and/or reflections, most have complaints about worsening reflections. Which makes sense.

Dasung has introduced a 10.3" version of their hybrid Not E-reader, but it's also very expensive.

MarjaE · 05-06-2021, 02:17 AM

And I missed that Boyue has introduced a 10" model. It would rely on screen sharing via usb-c. I tried my current screen sharing software, managed to sort out screen orientation, but got an awful flicker and migraine. If I can stop that flicker, it might be a much more affordable option.

wold · 05-07-2021, 08:30 AM

Reading through the thread, it might help to mention text-based* applications exist.
These could be an ideal match for slowly updated e-ink screens.

Examples are the https://newsboat.org/ RSS reader and Mutt mailclient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(email_client)
I'm not affiliated with either BTW.

These programs tend to be simple, lack images and are entirely keyboard driven (no mouse cursor).
Screen updates usually only occur after you issue a keyboard command.

They do sacrifice features and convenience, and the learning curve can be steep. And it'll likely require using another system than Windows. It all depends on how 'tech-savvy' you are (or get a helping hand).

*or CLI/terminal/shell programs. Basically <90's tech, which forms the basis of unix-like systems and windows.

salamanderjuice · 05-07-2021, 12:26 PM

Yes. This is also entirely doable on an Android eInk device using an app like Termux and a Bluetooth keyboard.

j.p.s · 05-07-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wold

These programs tend to be simple, lack images and are entirely keyboard driven (no mouse cursor).

mutt has hooks to quickly, easily, and conveniently view attached images with an external viewer.

Quote:

They do sacrifice features and convenience,

In my experience, mutt adds features, convenience, and responsiveness.

wold · 05-07-2021, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.p.s

mutt has hooks to quickly, easily, and conveniently view attached images with an external viewer.

In my experience, mutt adds features, convenience, and responsiveness.

I understand, but to abuse a saying: I was preaching to newcomers, not the choir

MarjaE · 05-07-2021, 07:08 PM

I have been testing screen sharing software with my Likebook Mars. The first few options had constant flickering, but Duet Display seems to avoid that, at least in wired mode. Duet Display also supports the touchscreen which avoids having to go back and forth between reader and keyboard all the time.

I still have a moderate migraine. That may be because of the small print, having to scroll at times instead of just page down, and today's weather.

My current reading app, Clearview, is a poor fit for this screen. It keeps reverting to small font sizes for epub and mobi. I'm going to need larger font sizes, more spacing, and bolder contrast. It also sizes pdf files side-to-side, but I may need to size them top-to-bottom, and use thumbnails to flip pages.

P.S. Thunderbird is awfully small on this screen, but it works.

Since the screen sharing software is working for me, the Boyue Likebook P10 looks like a good choice for me. I do wonder if a P13 will come out though.

tracey1 · 05-07-2021, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

Reflective LCD is basically an LCD screen with no backlight but with a layer to reflect external light. This is also called a transflective LCD. If you have ever used an old Game Boy/Game Boy Color or the original Game Boy Advance it's that kind of screen. You need a very bright light source for it to be visible and if glare is a problem it won't work well for you as you typically need a bright light shining directly on it to see anything. Color also gets kinda washed out.

What about a matte screen proctector ? Seems like a good choice. Sure, it still may have some glare but it doesn't emit light like an LCD display. Owners of the Hisense A5 seem to be pretty content despite its reflective display.

I have a lot of eye strain as well which is why I'm looking for an E-paper monitor as E-ink has been wonderful for my eyes. I'm heavily leaning towards the Hisense Q5 though as it's so much cheaper and has a fast refresh rate. As to needing an external light source for it - when does one not have an external light source ? Whenever I read on my kindle or read a physical book, I do.

tracey1 · 05-07-2021, 08:07 PM

Here's a review of the Hisense Q5. The owner suffers from eye issues as well and seems content with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekl6...annel=RobotKid

salamanderjuice · 05-07-2021, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracey1

What about a matte screen proctector ? Seems like a good choice. Sure, it still may have some glare but it doesn't emit light like an LCD display. Owners of the Hisense A5 seem to be pretty content despite its reflective display.

I have a lot of eye strain as well which is why I'm looking for an E-paper monitor as E-ink has been wonderful for my eyes. I'm heavily leaning towards the Hisense Q5 though as it's so much cheaper and has a fast refresh rate. As to needing an external light source for it - when does one not have an external light source ? Whenever I read on my kindle or read a physical book, I do.

They pretty much need a bright light pointed directly at them. It's considerably harder to see a transflective display in the same light compared to an eInk one.

tracey1 · 05-08-2021, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

They pretty much need a bright light pointed directly at them. It's considerably harder to see a transflective display in the same light compared to an eInk one.

I agree. However, for me the points you mentioned don't seem to be much of a nuiscance as I'm always surrounded with ambien light when I'm working on my laptop and I don't think I would mind using a desk lamp in the evening for assistance.

MarjaE · 05-11-2021, 07:14 PM

Bought the Boyue P10.

Unable just yet to install Duet Display on it. I've contacted Duet for help, waiting for any reply.

P.S. Was able to install Twomon USB. Can't run Twomon SE on my computer. This works without flicker, but doesn't support as many resolution options as the other. Due to the limited screen size, I'm going to have to tweak my email settings.

rowe · 05-14-2021, 11:45 AM

Never had a P10, but I've tried using a few older e-readers as monitors and the Dasung performed much better. Their optimisation for single purpose e-ink monitors is very good. Even a Boox Max 3 which has a HDMI port and the same screen hardware was really poor in comparison.

The main problem with Dasung is their customer service. From my experience they typically ignore support requests.

Ereadlog · 06-05-2021, 05:05 PM

MarjaE did you try using blue light blocking glasses, eg Uvex Skyper for your problems ?

Pajamaman · 06-05-2021, 05:20 PM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=339747

The Mira looks perfect.

05-07-2021, 08:30 AM	#33
wold Zealot Posts: 137 Karma: 87012 Join Date: Apr 2021 Device: Lux 5, Libra 2, PRS-T2N	Reading through the thread, it might help to mention text-based* applications exist. These could be an ideal match for slowly updated e-ink screens. Examples are the https://newsboat.org/ RSS reader and Mutt mailclient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_(email_client) I'm not affiliated with either BTW. These programs tend to be simple, lack images and are entirely keyboard driven (no mouse cursor). Screen updates usually only occur after you issue a keyboard command. They do sacrifice features and convenience, and the learning curve can be steep. And it'll likely require using another system than Windows. It all depends on how 'tech-savvy' you are (or get a helping hand). *or CLI/terminal/shell programs. Basically <90's tech, which forms the basis of unix-like systems and windows. Attached Thumbnails

05-11-2021, 07:14 PM	#42
MarjaE Guru Posts: 942 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	Bought the Boyue P10. Unable just yet to install Duet Display on it. I've contacted Duet for help, waiting for any reply. P.S. Was able to install Twomon USB. Can't run Twomon SE on my computer. This works without flicker, but doesn't support as many resolution options as the other. Due to the limited screen size, I'm going to have to tweak my email settings. Last edited by MarjaE; 05-13-2021 at 02:36 PM.

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05-04-2021, 12:43 AM	#31
MarjaE Guru Posts: 942 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	I've also looked into anti-glare screens. Although advertised as reducing glare and/or reflections, most have complaints about worsening reflections. Which makes sense. Dasung has introduced a 10.3" version of their hybrid Not E-reader, but it's also very expensive.

05-06-2021, 02:17 AM	#32
MarjaE Guru Posts: 942 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	And I missed that Boyue has introduced a 10" model. It would rely on screen sharing via usb-c. I tried my current screen sharing software, managed to sort out screen orientation, but got an awful flicker and migraine. If I can stop that flicker, it might be a much more affordable option.

05-07-2021, 12:26 PM	#34
salamanderjuice Guru Posts: 968 Karma: 13558066 Join Date: Jul 2017 Device: Boox Nova 2	Yes. This is also entirely doable on an Android eInk device using an app like Termux and a Bluetooth keyboard.

05-07-2021, 07:08 PM	#37
MarjaE Guru Posts: 942 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	I have been testing screen sharing software with my Likebook Mars. The first few options had constant flickering, but Duet Display seems to avoid that, at least in wired mode. Duet Display also supports the touchscreen which avoids having to go back and forth between reader and keyboard all the time. I still have a moderate migraine. That may be because of the small print, having to scroll at times instead of just page down, and today's weather. My current reading app, Clearview, is a poor fit for this screen. It keeps reverting to small font sizes for epub and mobi. I'm going to need larger font sizes, more spacing, and bolder contrast. It also sizes pdf files side-to-side, but I may need to size them top-to-bottom, and use thumbnails to flip pages. P.S. Thunderbird is awfully small on this screen, but it works. Since the screen sharing software is working for me, the Boyue Likebook P10 looks like a good choice for me. I do wonder if a P13 will come out though.

05-07-2021, 08:07 PM	#39
tracey1 Addict Posts: 221 Karma: 4500000 Join Date: Feb 2017 Device: none	Here's a review of the Hisense Q5. The owner suffers from eye issues as well and seems content with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekl6...annel=RobotKid

05-14-2021, 11:45 AM	#43
rowe Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 5094360 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: Hibreak Pro, Mira, Paperlike Colour	Never had a P10, but I've tried using a few older e-readers as monitors and the Dasung performed much better. Their optimisation for single purpose e-ink monitors is very good. Even a Boox Max 3 which has a HDMI port and the same screen hardware was really poor in comparison. The main problem with Dasung is their customer service. From my experience they typically ignore support requests.

06-05-2021, 05:05 PM	#44
Ereadlog Member Posts: 20 Karma: 3116 Join Date: Jun 2021 Device: none	MarjaE did you try using blue light blocking glasses, eg Uvex Skyper for your problems ?

06-05-2021, 05:20 PM	#45
Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,874 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=339747 The Mira looks perfect.