K3 Kindle 3 (keyboard) 3G B006, https broken, alternative to experimental browser?

Ola Dunk · 09-29-2020, 06:04 PM

Most https-sites will not load ("your kindle is unable to load the requested page") or give a "invalid certificate" warning. From what I understand most sites updated from TSL 1.0/1.1 but the experimental browser did not (source).

I've read a couple of threads on this forum about wikipedia no longer working on the K3, but I can't see that there is a fix or a workaround. Therefor I ask now:

1. Is there a fix? Does anyone know if there will be a new firmware upgrade that fixes it, or a downgrade?
2. Is there a work-around? I've found out that using google web lights as a proxy get me to wikipedia, but it is slow and clunky.
3. Is there an alternative? If I jailbreak my Kindle, is it possible to install an alternative browser with TSL 1.2 support? Does such a browser exist yet for the Kindle 3?

My apologies if I've posted this in the wrong sub-forum.

Deskisamess · 09-29-2020, 06:18 PM

Security changes on web sites are generally the issue. There is no fix or work-around, why should Amazon pay for your browsing?

Ola Dunk · 10-01-2020, 04:05 PM

A few years ago, a mobileread member ported the SkipStone browser to Kindle Touch. Would this port work for the Kindle 3 too? If not, are there any other alternative browsers that are ported to the Kindle 3?

Btw. If any other Kindle 3 (Kindle Keyboard) owners are reading this thread and would like to be able to access wikipedia again (although slowly, and with errors),

Code:

https://googleweblight.com/sp?hl&u=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=

will get you to the wikipedia search page (google web light removes the wikipedia search box from articles and the main page). If anyone knows what parameters google web light accepts, I would be very grateful.

Ola Dunk · 10-09-2020, 05:41 PM

Amazon Customer Service just confirmed that there will be no new updates for the Kindle Keyboard.

binaryhermit · 10-09-2020, 05:44 PM

I suspect there may be new "updates" for the Kindle Keyboard just to keep the Kindle store working.

Outside of that, yeah.

JSWolf · 10-09-2020, 06:05 PM

If you want a working browser, you'll have to dump your Kindle. Get one of the new Onyx Boox Readers that uses Android 10 and install a browser that works.

Ola Dunk · 10-15-2020, 03:47 PM

Would it be easy to set up a proxy on a webserver that strips SSL and access wikipedia through that, or will HSTS make it hard to implement?

JSWolf · 10-15-2020, 04:34 PM

The browser is not up-to-date and never will be. Most eInk browsers are rather poor. You can forget browsing with a K3 if what you want to do doesn't work.

Ola Dunk · 11-02-2020, 02:10 PM

I know that the Kindle 3 browser is hopelessly outdated, however most other functions of the Kindle is still functional. I have no plans on getting a new ebook reader as long as it works. Several websites still load, and I'll never use it for any heavy duty surfing, however it would be nice to look up a word on wikipedia now and then.

Does anyone know if Lynx or Links can be installed (and works) through OptWare?

stassk8 · 11-10-2020, 05:06 PM

lynx (v2.8.8dev.12) start on kindle 3.4.3, but in my country 3g limit.

09-29-2020, 06:04 PM	#1
Ola Dunk Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2020 Device: Kindle 3	Kindle 3 (keyboard) 3G B006, https broken, alternative to experimental browser? Most https-sites will not load ("your kindle is unable to load the requested page") or give a "invalid certificate" warning. From what I understand most sites updated from TSL 1.0/1.1 but the experimental browser did not (source). I've read a couple of threads on this forum about wikipedia no longer working on the K3, but I can't see that there is a fix or a workaround. Therefor I ask now: 1. Is there a fix? Does anyone know if there will be a new firmware upgrade that fixes it, or a downgrade? 2. Is there a work-around? I've found out that using google web lights as a proxy get me to wikipedia, but it is slow and clunky. 3. Is there an alternative? If I jailbreak my Kindle, is it possible to install an alternative browser with TSL 1.2 support? Does such a browser exist yet for the Kindle 3? My apologies if I've posted this in the wrong sub-forum.

10-01-2020, 04:05 PM	#3
Ola Dunk Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2020 Device: Kindle 3	A few years ago, a mobileread member ported the SkipStone browser to Kindle Touch. Would this port work for the Kindle 3 too? If not, are there any other alternative browsers that are ported to the Kindle 3? Btw. If any other Kindle 3 (Kindle Keyboard) owners are reading this thread and would like to be able to access wikipedia again (although slowly, and with errors), Code: https://googleweblight.com/sp?hl&u=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search= will get you to the wikipedia search page (google web light removes the wikipedia search box from articles and the main page). If anyone knows what parameters google web light accepts, I would be very grateful.

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Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,777 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022	Security changes on web sites are generally the issue. There is no fix or work-around, why should Amazon pay for your browsing?

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Ola Dunk Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2020 Device: Kindle 3	Amazon Customer Service just confirmed that there will be no new updates for the Kindle Keyboard.

10-09-2020, 05:44 PM	#5
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	I suspect there may be new "updates" for the Kindle Keyboard just to keep the Kindle store working. Outside of that, yeah.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,757 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If you want a working browser, you'll have to dump your Kindle. Get one of the new Onyx Boox Readers that uses Android 10 and install a browser that works.

10-15-2020, 03:47 PM	#7
Ola Dunk Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2020 Device: Kindle 3	Would it be easy to set up a proxy on a webserver that strips SSL and access wikipedia through that, or will HSTS make it hard to implement?

10-15-2020, 04:34 PM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,757 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The browser is not up-to-date and never will be. Most eInk browsers are rather poor. You can forget browsing with a K3 if what you want to do doesn't work.

11-02-2020, 02:10 PM	#9
Ola Dunk Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2020 Device: Kindle 3	I know that the Kindle 3 browser is hopelessly outdated, however most other functions of the Kindle is still functional. I have no plans on getting a new ebook reader as long as it works. Several websites still load, and I'll never use it for any heavy duty surfing, however it would be nice to look up a word on wikipedia now and then. Does anyone know if Lynx or Links can be installed (and works) through OptWare?

11-10-2020, 05:06 PM	#10
stassk8 Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2019 Device: kindle dxg, kindle pw3	lynx (v2.8.8dev.12) start on kindle 3.4.3, but in my country 3g limit.